Marvel Cinematic Universe Part II

[MindofShadow]

Ummmm what are you talking about? They are better than Ragnaroks dailies. Its actually 31 million in front of Ragnarok. And widening the gap.


$69,554,073 /
$69,554,073 $46,470,936 /
$46,470,936
1st Saturday $42,112,494 /
$111,666,567 $44,203,752 /
$90,674,688
1st Sunday $32,498,540 /
$144,165,107 $32,070,301 /
$122,744,989
1st Monday $12,182,506 /
$156,347,613 $8,247,661 /
$130,992,650
1st Tuesday $13,655,428 /
$170,003,041 $10,824,443 /
$141,817,093
1st Wednesday $8,929,256 /
$178,932,297 $6,148,407 /
$147,965,500

How you copy and pasted this isn't readable at all

but I wasn't comparing it to ragnorak, I was comparing it to itself.

(it also cost 70 million more than ragnorak...)

[inisideguy]

How you copy and pasted this isn't readable at all

but I wasn't comparing it to ragnorak, I was comparing it to itself.

(it also cost 70 million more than ragnorak...)

Ok not sure what you mean but its probably going over 500 million worldwide after 1 week. So not sure what you want.

[Gaastra]

In sony marvel news--

Sony has removed its unnamed spidey film on the flash release date next year. Great. That means flash only has to worry about spider-verse 2, indy 5 and bumblebee 2/ beast wars on its opening weekend.

What a relief.

https://twitter.com/ERCboxoffice/sta..._RHzNAr0g&s=19

[Omega Alpha]

Also y’all WHY is Riri Williams in this movie? Did they not think it was enough to expand on Wakanda, deal with the death of T’Challa and his legacy, AND introduce Namor and Atlantis? Riri could easily be introduced in Armor Wars and she’s getting her own Disney+ series.

Yeah, the excess of characters is causing me concern.

[Shaggy]

Yeah… honestly they should go ahead and bring in the Killmonger variant from What If? and have him act as a foil to Shuri.

Also y’all WHY is Riri Williams in this movie? Did they not think it was enough to expand on Wakanda, deal with the death of T’Challa and his legacy, AND introduce Namor and Atlantis? Riri could easily be introduced in Armor Wars and she’s getting her own Disney+ series.

I think the tactic here is to throw everything they can in this movie in the hopes of offsetting the lack of T'Challa.

[Colossus1980]

Also y’all WHY is Riri Williams in this movie? Did they not think it was enough to expand on Wakanda, deal with the death of T’Challa and his legacy, AND introduce Namor and Atlantis? Riri could easily be introduced in Armor Wars and she’s getting her own Disney+ series.

Best way to get exposure for a pivotal MCU character. I'm sure there are big plans for her like being in the Avengers or Young Avengers and having her own solo movie. I don't think she will get a big role but enough to get the audience interested.

[Frontier]

Yeah… honestly they should go ahead and bring in the Killmonger variant from What If? and have him act as a foil to Shuri.

Also y’all WHY is Riri Williams in this movie? Did they not think it was enough to expand on Wakanda, deal with the death of T’Challa and his legacy, AND introduce Namor and Atlantis? Riri could easily be introduced in Armor Wars and she’s getting her own Disney+ series.

I like Michael B. Jordan but I personally don't need more chances to bring back "Killmonger was right." I couldn't see them bringing him back in a way that didn't take his teeth out either, and he would definitely overshadow Letita's Shuri.

It doesn't really seem like there's anything additional from the Black Panther mythos in this movie other than "fight Namor" and they don't even have T'Challa for that.

[Username taken]

Finally saw Thor 4, I was disappointed.

Thor was barely competent in this movie, he was very strong and powerful but he seemed to have lost some IQ points.

The humor was overly broad and most of the time it didn't land because it was out of place.

Sif loses her arm- jokes, kids get kidnapped- jokes, Thor levels a temple- jokes...it was too much. The storytelling wasn't good for either a comedy or an action movie.

The scenes with Jane dying and Gorr seemed to be from a different movie. I'm not sure what Waititi was thinking here.

[HaveAtThee]

Finally saw Thor 4, I was disappointed.

Thor was barely competent in this movie, he was very strong and powerful but he seemed to have lost some IQ points.

The humor was overly broad and most of the time it didn't land because it was out of place.

Sif loses her arm- jokes, kids get kidnapped- jokes, Thor levels a temple- jokes...it was too much. The storytelling wasn't good for either a comedy or an action movie.

The scenes with Jane dying and Gorr seemed to be from a different movie. I'm not sure what Waititi was thinking here.

He probably wasn't.

[Frontier]

Finally saw Thor 4, I was disappointed.

Thor was barely competent in this movie, he was very strong and powerful but he seemed to have lost some IQ points.

The humor was overly broad and most of the time it didn't land because it was out of place.

Sif loses her arm- jokes, kids get kidnapped- jokes, Thor levels a temple- jokes...it was too much. The storytelling wasn't good for either a comedy or an action movie.

The scenes with Jane dying and Gorr seemed to be from a different movie. I'm not sure what Waititi was thinking here.

I'm not surprised that Thor's IQ took a hit, the humor was too much, or that Sif ended up getting screwed.

[Username taken]

The one thing I will praise Waititi for is getting how powerful Thor is.

In Ragnarok and in Love and Thunder (particularly Love and Thunder), Odinson is a beast.

[MindofShadow]

I'm not surprised that Thor's IQ took a hit, the humor was too much, or that Sif ended up getting screwed.

For the like first hour of the movie, he and everyone else seem they have a learning disability lol.

About halfway (it felt like, not sure), about the time Gorr was the central plot again, the movie did seem to tone down

[MindofShadow]

thor becoming less of a parody happened around the same time as his conversation with Jane

It almost feels like what Taika was going for was

spoilers:

Thor became even more goofy and out there because he stopped caring. Instead of his depression being self loathing and gluttony like End Game... he was almost nihilistic or apathetic. He would just go around, smash things to help, and move on. Jane brought back out the real thor as a person and made him care/love again. and that is around the time in the movie it was way less goofy. Of course, it could have been it got less goofy because Korg was basically gone, GoG were gone, Meik was gone, New Asguard as a whole was gone... so you were left with just 4 characters so it naturally became more serious

end of spoilers

[Username taken]

thor becoming less of a parody happened around the same time as his conversation with Jane

It almost feels like what Taika was going for was

spoilers:

Thor became even more goofy and out there because he stopped caring. Instead of his depression being self loathing and gluttony like End Game... he was almost nihilistic or apathetic. He would just go around, smash things to help, and move on. Jane brought back out the real thor as a person and made him care/love again. and that is around the time in the movie it was way less goofy. Of course, it could have been it got less goofy because Korg was basically gone, GoG were gone, Meik was gone, New Asguard as a whole was gone... so you were left with just 4 characters so it naturally became more serious

end of spoilers

Maybe that was Taika was going for but the execution left a lot to be desired.

The movie was filled with odd decisions. See the Korg thing.

He had the very epic “death” scene only for him to end a talking face and a joke again. Why? It would have been a lot more impactful if he’d died and then Thor put that hole in Zeus.

[Ascended]

Also y’all WHY is Riri Williams in this movie? Did they not think it was enough to expand on Wakanda, deal with the death of T’Challa and his legacy, AND introduce Namor and Atlantis? Riri could easily be introduced in Armor Wars and she’s getting her own Disney+ series.

Did they plan on introducing Riri before Chadwick passed? Might be contracts in place keeping the character involved, despite having to upend the entire film to account for T'Challa's absence?

Or they might have just figured that putting Riri into the sequel of a billion dollar box office darling was a great way to put a ton of eyes on her and drum up hype for her D+ show.

But yeah, having to deal with Riri on top of everything else.....I feel really bad for everyone involved here. This movie has felt cursed from the start, and at this point I'm just hoping it manages to avoid being a complete trainwreck. The cast and crew and wonderful, but Chadwick, starting production so soon after he died, the pandemic, on-set injuries.....what a uphill battle this entire production must have been to make.

My expectations for BP2 are incredibly low. I'm just hoping that whatever the film does, it doesn't throw the Panther franchise into the gutter. Just....let this film establish a viable, working new status quo and hopefully the third film and appearances in other MCU projects can level off whatever failings this movie has, and put Wakanda back on top. I definitely don't think I'll walk out of theaters for BP2 with everyone yelling "Wakanda Forever!" in triumph, like we did the last time, but hopefully nobody will leave utterly disgusted, burning their T'Challa t-shirts as they go.