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    Quote Originally Posted by MindofShadow View Post
    I feel like being a weirdo outcast like an Inhuman or Mutant is a lot different than getting tech though.
    Yeah but Marvel's idea of being an outcast is to somehow be more capable than everyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    I feel like it should be more about staying true to the character and her abilities than trying to make her fit more with Carol. The new powers just look weird.

    Well, her first arc is pretty great though...
    Yeah, she doesn't need to be more like Carol. I mean, Monica doesn't have the same powers as Carol either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ascended View Post
    I know it's not a popular opinion but I think Incredible Hulk is one of the better MCU films. It's not at the very top of my list or anything, but it's far closer to the top than the bottom.
    I've been a champion of IH for a long time lol


    .but I can think of no viable reason for this change.
    CGI budget and not wanting to mix with Reed is all I can think of.
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    https://www.comicbookmovie.com/etern...9079#gs.dymtlp

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    Eternal reviews definitely aren't great... which is rare for an MCU film in the first round of reviews for sure. Its RT is on pace for Iron Man 2..... and RT's generally drop from the initial....

    This may solidify my decision to just wait for D+ again. Trailers never grabbed me really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmiComic View Post
    Yeah but Marvel's idea of being an outcast is to somehow be more capable than everyone else.
    Depends what we're talking about.
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    Eternal reviews definitely aren't great... which is rare for an MCU film in the first round of reviews for sure. Its RT is on pace for Iron Man 2..... and RT's generally drop from the initial....

    This may solidify my decision to just wait for D+ again. Trailers never grabbed me really.
    I'm surprised. I thought the Marvel Studios machine would sell it through, but I guess the Box Office is the real deciding factor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Depends what we're talking about.

    I'm surprised. I thought the Marvel Studios machine would sell it through, but I guess the Box Office is the real deciding factor.
    I mean, they started comparing it to a DC movie at one point so ... lol

    I wonder if they got out fo their wheelhouse a touch and it didn't work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MindofShadow View Post
    I mean, they started comparing it to a DC movie at one point so ... lol

    I wonder if they got out fo their wheelhouse a touch and it didn't work.
    Like in the sense that it tried to be something more than an action blockbuster with quips? I get the sense the movie has some identity issues with being a Chloe Zhao movie and being a "Marvel" movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    I would've hated it if they'd never worn actual costumes.

    I mean, I don't even love their costumes here, but at least they're purple.
    Oh yeah, I don't *dislike* the costumes, hell it's probably the best Clint has looked honestly. But if this is Fraction inspired (and I know you hate that run) and this is just Clint dealing with some random BS on his vacation, then I would've been fine with no costumes. I feel like "costumes" don't fit MCU Clint anyway; dude is supposed to be wearing old SHIELD tactical gear right? Function over form and all that? Doesn't seem the kind of guy to put on spandex yknow?

    I would've been happy with a purple t-shirt. With the Hawkeye logo on it.

    In any case this is a very, very small gripe on my part. And hey, this might be the last time you're happier with this show than I am Frontier, given our opinions on Fraction's run!

    Quote Originally Posted by MindofShadow View Post
    I've been a champion of IH for a long time lol
    Then its you and me against the world on this one!

    CGI budget and not wanting to mix with Reed is all I can think of.
    Pretty much. And if it's a budget issue, then they shouldn't be doing Kamala in the first place. And if they're screwing over the Pakistani-American for the straight white guy.....in a universe full of flying bricks and people who throw cgi colors around with minimal "real" difference in ability....oh man, Marvel will deserve every mean thing the internet will say about them.

    Personally, I think if anything, it's an attempt to make Kamala "fit in" with Monica and Carol. Between the three of them, Kamala's powerset was always the odd one out and this new Green Lantern rip off achieves the goal of making Kamala blend in.

    If the gods are good, this will be temporary; Kam will pick up some random Kree tech doodad (negabands?) for the show but towards the end get caught in some random....thing....that gives her the proper powerset going into Marvels.

    As for Eternals....I'm surprised the reviews are mixed, even some bland MCU movies have gotten solid reviews. But given the people involved I wonder if maybe this film's true crime is simply not being what people expected it to be? Maybe it's actually not a great movie, or maybe they made the same mistake DC did with Man of Steel, and made something audiences don't associate with the Marvel brand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ascended View Post
    Oh yeah, I don't *dislike* the costumes, hell it's probably the best Clint has looked honestly. But if this is Fraction inspired (and I know you hate that run) and this is just Clint dealing with some random BS on his vacation, then I would've been fine with no costumes. I feel like "costumes" don't fit MCU Clint anyway; dude is supposed to be wearing old SHIELD tactical gear right? Function over form and all that? Doesn't seem the kind of guy to put on spandex yknow?

    I would've been happy with a purple t-shirt. With the Hawkeye logo on it.

    In any case this is a very, very small gripe on my part. And hey, this might be the last time you're happier with this show than I am Frontier, given our opinions on Fraction's run!
    I'm not the biggest fan of the MCU and the comics making Hawkeye a t-shirt guy whether it's tactical or otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MindofShadow View Post
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    Eternal reviews definitely aren't great... which is rare for an MCU film in the first round of reviews for sure. Its RT is on pace for Iron Man 2..... and RT's generally drop from the initial....

    This may solidify my decision to just wait for D+ again. Trailers never grabbed me really.


    I dont know about the movie. But I give that website a 1 percent) Holy pop ups.

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    Perhaps hyping up the Oscar-winning director gave critics higher expectations for Eternals than they would normally have. Critical responses towards Marvel stuff can be pretty unpredictable and inconsistent. I still don't understand how the Ant-Man movies were met with such positive reception.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ascended View Post
    I know it's not a popular opinion but I think Incredible Hulk is one of the better MCU films. It's not at the very top of my list or anything, but it's far closer to the top than the bottom.

    Incredible Hulk was a solid movie. I think Norton was excellent in it and much better than Ruffalo and wish him and Marvel could have worked it out.

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    Eternal reviews definitely aren't great... which is rare for an MCU film in the first round of reviews for sure. Its RT is on pace for Iron Man 2..... and RT's generally drop from the initial....

    This may solidify my decision to just wait for D+ again. Trailers never grabbed me really.
    I really don't have high hopes for Eternals. Them and Inhumans are properties that work better attached to something else like FF or Avengers. Just my $0.02 worth...but I don't think they really stand on their own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by inisideguy View Post
    I dont know about the movie. But I give that website a 1 percent) Holy pop ups.
    ... people don't have pop up blockers still?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dipter View Post
    Perhaps hyping up the Oscar-winning director gave critics higher expectations for Eternals than they would normally have. Critical responses towards Marvel stuff can be pretty unpredictable and inconsistent. I still don't understand how the Ant-Man movies were met with such positive reception.
    Honestly, I think people going into comic book movies want to have fun with it, and if it is coherent and fun, it automatically gets a positive review.

    When you start trying to go "deeper" with it, it starts to get looked at more critically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dipter View Post
    Perhaps hyping up the Oscar-winning director gave critics higher expectations for Eternals than they would normally have. Critical responses towards Marvel stuff can be pretty unpredictable and inconsistent. I still don't understand how the Ant-Man movies were met with such positive reception.
    The first Ant-Man was a dark horse compared to Age of Ultron, which ultimately didn't live up to its hype. AMaTW, I got nothin. I liked it, but I got nothin. I remember it being billed as the MCU's rom-com somewhere. I remember people hyping up the 03' Hulk movie, with Eric Bana and Jennifer Connelly, because Ang Lee directed it, but it was kind of artsy and weird, like what people have been saying about Eternals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris0013 View Post
    I really don't have high hopes for Eternals. Them and Inhumans are properties that work better attached to something else like FF or Avengers. Just my $0.02 worth...but I don't think they really stand on their own.
    I think they could stand on their own, but they're Marvel's most sci-fi/fantasy property as opposed to a beat'em/action type team. For one thing, they aren't teams, they're a few members of their species that go against a greater evil and have run ins with their creators.

    Despite this, they're species mixed more with the greater Marvel Universe, like Starfox, Sersi, Thanos, Crystal, and Ms. Marvel.

    Audiences didn't care for comic movies as they were, so that's why Marvel found success in making them comedies because anyone can laugh and have fun. If they get too serious, it has to be a Batman movie. Other serious comic book movies are forgettable.

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