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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Watkins View Post
    i don't think that either make sense as the villains of a black panther movie. i was kind of hoping that the second would get the characters out of Wakanda. that's where T'challa works best (as evidenced by Civil War). Namor should have a solo film first. and Doom can go kick rocks. not sure why they are bothering with the Fantastic Four. they just had that big relaunch in comics. and, big surprise, it's boring as hell. these characters are just outdated. i guess they could get away with them and Doom as a mad men era period piece. otherwise, they are just beyond corny. we already have adventurers, explorers, and hero family units in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. redundant much.
    Wow, really?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Watkins View Post
    i don't think that either make sense as the villains of a black panther movie. i was kind of hoping that the second would get the characters out of Wakanda. that's where T'challa works best (as evidenced by Civil War). Namor should have a solo film first. and Doom can go kick rocks. not sure why they are bothering with the Fantastic Four. they just had that big relaunch in comics. and, big surprise, it's boring as hell. these characters are just outdated. i guess they could get away with them and Doom as a mad men era period piece. otherwise, they are just beyond corny. we already have adventurers, explorers, and hero family units in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. redundant much.
    These sound like the words of a person who clearly doesn't know these characters at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hybrid View Post
    Wow, really?
    you wow really this but two posts above someone said that mutants shouldn't be included. how is that any less controversial? the MCU has gotten along without the Fantastic Four just fine. and their importance is all based around them being the first family and having the smartest man in the MU as their leader. i'm not seeing a gigantic need for any of that in the current cinematic universe. part of the drama of endgame was that they didn't just have a time travel specialist around. everything they were doing was theoretical. and, for obvious reaons, the FF would not be the first family.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skullkid View Post
    These sound like the words of a person who clearly doesn't know these characters at all.
    how's that ignoring me coming along?

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    I honestly don’t get what you’re saying. Kevin Feige said he wants to get as much of Marvel in the MCU as he can, hence anything they can use (which by now is mostly everything) has free reign with nothing off limits. They’re not going to exclude the Fantastic Four or the X-Men for no reason, and he’s made it clear that he’s very excited to use those characters now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hybrid View Post
    I honestly don’t get what you’re saying. Kevin Feige said he wants to get as much of Marvel in the MCU as he can, hence anything they can use (which by now is mostly everything) has free reign with nothing off limits. They’re not going to exclude the Fantastic Four or the X-Men for no reason, and he’s made it clear that he’s very excited to use those characters now.
    I'm excited to hopefully see proper renditions of the FF & X-Men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    I feel like the ship may of sailed on introducing Balder. Another long lost sibling will feel a bit redundant after Hela in the previous movie.

    Bale would make a good Dario Agger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hybrid View Post
    I honestly don’t get what you’re saying. Kevin Feige said he wants to get as much of Marvel in the MCU as he can, hence anything they can use (which by now is mostly everything) has free reign with nothing off limits. They’re not going to exclude the Fantastic Four or the X-Men for no reason, and he’s made it clear that he’s very excited to use those characters now.
    but is it a good use of resources? do they really have anything to add? couldn't they theoretically use Galactus without using them? they could even just allude to them dying in a battle with [insert villain].

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    Quote Originally Posted by chamber-music View Post
    I feel like the ship may of sailed on introducing Balder. Another long lost sibling will feel a bit redundant after Hela in the previous movie.

    Bale would make a good Dario Agger.
    Dario looks like he took some inspiration from Patrick Bateman already. it would be a fun role for any actor not interested in playing a good guy again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cool Thatguy View Post
    I think it would be best if mutants don't join the MCU.
    Some say they prefer them in a mcu alternate universe like the mcu marvel netflix shows for example.

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    maybe the Fantastic Four should take place in their own "universe," as well.

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    Why are you even saying this stuff when you know that’s now what’s going to happen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chamber-music View Post
    I feel like the ship may of sailed on introducing Balder. Another long lost sibling will feel a bit redundant after Hela in the previous movie.

    Bale would make a good Dario Agger.
    They could just not make him an actual sibling to Thor and just use him how he was before the JMS retcon, but I see your point.

    I thought he could be Agger, but he seems too much of a B-lister to warrant being the Big Bad of a movie with two Thors, and if Bale is a villain I can't see him not being the main one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mace11 View Post
    Some say they prefer them in a mcu alternate universe like the mcu marvel netflix shows for example.
    I'm sure whatever Marvel Studios does it'll be a lot of fun. They have rarely let me down in any meaningful way and have not yet made a film I didn't enjoy enough to watch a second (or third, or fourth....) time.

    But I'd rather the mutants stay in their own setting. I don't feel like they really fit with the regular MU where they've been around since the start, and with the MCU being so well established.....I dunno. I'm sure it'll be good regardless but I think mutant phobia makes a lot more sense when you don't have Thor and Captain America running around, signing autographs.

    The FF will fit just fine in the regular MCU of course; that's just another bunch of super humans. Their status as the first family is no more necessary than Superman's being the first hero. And it'd be easy to introduce them in the 60's, making them the first family, and say they've been off exploring the Negative Zone ever since, or whatever. If they could do it with Carol they can do it with the Richards clan.
    "We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another, as if we were one single tribe."

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    Future of Storytelling in the MCU Is Both Films & Disney+ Starting in 2021

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ascended View Post
    I'm sure whatever Marvel Studios does it'll be a lot of fun. They have rarely let me down in any meaningful way and have not yet made a film I didn't enjoy enough to watch a second (or third, or fourth....) time.

    But I'd rather the mutants stay in their own setting. I don't feel like they really fit with the regular MU where they've been around since the start, and with the MCU being so well established.....I dunno. I'm sure it'll be good regardless but I think mutant phobia makes a lot more sense when you don't have Thor and Captain America running around, signing autographs.

    The FF will fit just fine in the regular MCU of course; that's just another bunch of super humans. Their status as the first family is no more necessary than Superman's being the first hero. And it'd be easy to introduce them in the 60's, making them the first family, and say they've been off exploring the Negative Zone ever since, or whatever. If they could do it with Carol they can do it with the Richards clan.
    Mutant racism is meant to be illogical and hypocritical. It wasn’t meant to make sense, like real world racism.

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