Marvel Cinematic Universe Part II

**Maestro 216** · 12-30-2022, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by Frontier

I don't know why but this reminds me of this scene in Crisis on Infinite Earths:

Shame DCEU fumbled their universe while Arrowverse pulled off this.

**mace11** · 12-31-2022, 10:40 PM

Update-
List of Marvel Cinematic Universe television series
Series approach

Feige described Marvel Studios' approach to their television series in January 2021, explaining that streaming on Disney+ gave Marvel Studios flexibility with the formats for each series. He said some were being developed as "one off" miniseries that were intended to lead into feature films, though additional seasons could be added to these in the future. Other series were always intended to cover multiple seasons while still being connected to the films,such as Loki. These could have several years between the release of seasons, similar to series like Game of Thrones and Stranger Things. Feige added that each miniseries or season was intended to be around six hours of content, but this would be split in different ways depending on the story being told, such as six hour-long episodes, or nine or ten half-hour episodes. Marvel Studios' earliest series were directed by a single person, but later series have multiple directors taking on different numbers of episodes. Feige said this happened due to a combination of logistics, the needs of each story, and the studio's "own internal learnings of making longform television". He said the studio would continue varying the number of directors on future series as needed.

Marvel Studios uses the term "head writer" instead of the traditional showrunner title, since they approach their television series as if they were six hour-long films. They encourage the series' directors to be in the writers room and part of the creative process (much like the feature films) in addition to Feige and the Marvel Studios executives assigned to each series. This approach was confirmed by WandaVision head writer Jac Schaeffer, The Falcon and the Winter Soldier director Kari Skogland, and Loki season one director Kate Herron, with Skogland describing the approach as "effective and efficient" since the series are too much for a single showrunner to take on.Despite the head writer term, each series has multiple writers and a writers room that the head writer leads, and they also use "created for television by" credits for the head writers.Explaining the decision-making process and hierarchy for Marvel Studios' first three series, Loki season one head writer Michael Waldron said the head writer of each series would have final say on creative decisions before filming began. At that point, the series shifted to a "more feature centric model" where the director takes on the role that a traditional showrunner might have and has the final say for creative decisions while on set and in post-production,with the head writer still present on set for any necessary rewrites and during post-production.

**Frontier** · 01-01-2023, 05:28 PM

Having read quite a bit of Eternals comics recently, my thoughts on the comics versus the movie interpretation:

- The original Kirby run does a better job of easing the audience into the plot by starting small and slowly unveiling the cast and world of the Eternals like a TV show compared to the movie which had to establish a bunch of main characters, plots, and more twists compared to the original comic. Half of the cast of the movie don't show up until later in the run, like issue 8-10.

- The Deviants are a lot more interesting and compelling because they're actual characters with culture and desires instead of CG monster fodder, and the movie absolutely wastes Kro. I don't know if Kro's complicated romance with Thena is more valid than how they handled Thena and Gilgamesh but it definitely helped him stand out.

- They combined Sersi and Ikaris' human love interest Margot but in doing so negated a lot of what makes Sersi interesting as a character (I mean, she randomly starts a dance sequence in a government office at some point) and didn't even deliver a romance that it seems most of the GA found believable. I guess part of this also comes from trying to turn her into a more conventional lead character rather than just use Ikaris (because I guess we needed to subvert expectations).

- Bollywood Star vs Samurai Kingo? I'll leave that up to you to decide. Hiroyuki Sanada would've been a great comic-accurate Kingo in my opinion.

- Nowhere near as colorful or bombastic as one would expect from a Jack Kirby property outside the visuals with the Celestials (obviously that's kind of lending to the tone of the film, but still).

- Thena doesn't really need memory problems or the Eternal equivalent of PTSD to be interesting.

**The Invincible Beawulf** · 01-01-2023, 11:58 PM

Originally Posted by Frontier

- Bollywood Star vs Samurai Kingo? I'll leave that up to you to decide. Hiroyuki Sanada would've been a great comic-accurate Kingo in my opinion.

Sanada would have been an excellent choice! I loved him playing Scorpion in the 2021 MK movie.

**Sutekh** · 01-02-2023, 02:19 AM

Originally Posted by Frontier

Having read quite a bit of Eternals comics recently, my thoughts on the comics versus the movie interpretation:

- The original Kirby run does a better job of easing the audience into the plot by starting small and slowly unveiling the cast and world of the Eternals like a TV show compared to the movie which had to establish a bunch of main characters, plots, and more twists compared to the original comic. Half of the cast of the movie don't show up until later in the run, like issue 8-10.

Had they cut it down to a smaller group of Eternals breaking off from the main group focused on fulfilling their 'programming,' with the plucky rebels working to create a uni-mind and stall / stop the emergence, that might have been a way to split the difference between comic canon and what they needed to do for a movie (namely, a much smaller cast). Given that the end-game was the Celestial emergence and preventing the destruction of Earth, there was literally no reason at all to involve the Deviants, since they were more or less a red herring.

- The Deviants are a lot more interesting and compelling because they're actual characters with culture and desires instead of CG monster fodder, and the movie absolutely wastes Kro. I don't know if Kro's complicated romance with Thena is more valid than how they handled Thena and Gilgamesh but it definitely helped him stand out.

Yeah, the comics Deviants are just exponentially more interesting than the MCU Deviants, which were, IMO, totally wasted here.

- They combined Sersi and Ikaris' human love interest Margot but in doing so negated a lot of what makes Sersi interesting as a character (I mean, she randomly starts a dance sequence in a government office at some point) and didn't even deliver a romance that it seems most of the GA found believable. I guess part of this also comes from trying to turn her into a more conventional lead character rather than just use Ikaris (because I guess we needed to subvert expectations).

- Bollywood Star vs Samurai Kingo? I'll leave that up to you to decide. Hiroyuki Sanada would've been a great comic-accurate Kingo in my opinion.

Since Gilgamesh and Sersi were also Asian, I was fine with Kingo being Indian, to further differentiate him from them.

What I did not like was the Eternals each having one power, instead of the full set (at lower levels, for some), with specializations.

The notion that Ajak, for instance, somehow survived thousands of years of combat with the Deviants with the amazing power to heal, that turned out to be kinda useless the first time she ended up face to face with Deviants? That's just dumb.

*All* of them should have had at least marginal super-strength, toughness, etc. even if just Captain America / super-soldier levels, and at least bit of flight, to justify them travelling all over the world throughout their history (what, did Ikaris carry their asses across the planet?). It doesn't have to be 100% canon to the comics (they don't all have to lift 20-40 tons and fly 400 MPH or whatever), but I liked how they had a baseline of ability, and then specializations (like Sersi was the transmutation specialist, Ikaris and Thena the best energy projectors, Gilgamesh the strongest, Makkari the fastest, Druig one of the best mentalists, etc.)

The flight thing particularly annoyed me, since we saw them all floating when they first arrived, and then six of the seven of them apparently forgot how to do it? Plus I was thinking Kingo's line about his Bollywood show about the life of Ikaris and how he was going to be on wires for the flying bits 'because I can't fly, ha ha' was a joke and he actually could fly, and just wasn't doing it in front of all the humans he was working with. But no. Apparently he actually forgot how to fly!

And because Ikaris was already a zapper, I kinda would have preferred if Kingo was more physical, an agile weapons-user, perhaps, using a more Indian sword (like an urumi?) instead of the katana the comics version uses. He wouldn't run at super-speed like Makkari, or be as super-strong as Gilgamesh, but be 'superhuman' with his weapons skill, and it might apply to more than just swords? Just to differentiate him from Ikaris, who was already throwing blasts around *and* could fly. Kingo, power-wise, came off as second-rate, IMO, because of that.

- Nowhere near as colorful or bombastic as one would expect from a Jack Kirby property outside the visuals with the Celestials (obviously that's kind of lending to the tone of the film, but still).

- Thena doesn't really need memory problems or the Eternal equivalent of PTSD to be interesting.

Agreed. Although part of me feels that Angelina tends to eat up the focus when she's on-screen, and her character ended up getting the less 'in your face' role so that Gemma Chan's less dynamic presence as Sersi would be able to pull focus? We can agree or disagree on whether or not Angelina is a great actress, but she definitely draws attention on-screen, and I suspect that Gemma, who seems much less 'alpha female' might have faded into the background if Thena had a more dynamic role.

It was a beautifully shot movie, and I liked the whole Celestial emergence part of it. (Indeed, I long wondered if that was the endgame to the Celestials creating mutants in 616 was about, eventually enough mutants being born to kick off their power kickstarting the birth of a new Celestial, which, unfortunately for them, would result in all those mutants, and the surrounding humans, being drawn into the forming Celestial and absorbed, having the same apocalyptic result as in the movie...)

And MCU Druig is like 10,000x more likable than comics Druig.

**Alpha** · 01-02-2023, 06:35 AM

I loved Eternals. And I would say Thena is the best portrayal of mental health issues in any superhero movie or show.

**mace11** · 01-02-2023, 08:04 AM

These are the powers of the eternals in and shown in the eternals movie.
All of them have super strength,durability,agility,stamina,cosmic energy manipulation,speed,regenerative healing factor and immortality etc..

Marvel cinematic universe Eternals

Characteristic Traits

The Eternals are outwardly physically indistinguishable to humans, although they possess far greater strength, agility, and durability than an average human. They are capable of "living" forever without aging, due to the fact that they possess a synthetic body rather than an organic one.

Beneath the skin, they appear to have metallic musculatures and endoskeletons, although they "bleed" something similar to red blood when injured.

They can survive the vacuum of space without any protection or breathing gear, compared to most organics who would rupture blood vessels and suffocate shortly after exposure. Because they are artificial and not biological, they do not qualify as part of “life in existence,” allowing them to survive spells or events that specifically target living beings, such as the Snap.

Eternals, despite being artificial and not biological, are capable of emotions, even capable of having relations with one another or with humans.

The Eternals are fueled by infinite cosmic energy, imbued upon them by Arishem during their creation. They use this energy to keep their bodies regenerating indefinitely. Through technological means, they can reallocate their energies and pool them into a single Eternal, whose abilities will then be boosted beyond their normal limits at the cost of momentarily shutting down their regeneration.

Other than regeneration, each Eternal utilizes cosmic energy differently in accordance to their specific role. Of the ten Eternals sent to Earth, five of them use their energies in directly combating the Deviants: exoskeleton generation, heat vision, flight, super speed, energy projection, and weapon generation are all effective tools for this task.

The other five function in more support capabilities: transmutation, healing, mind control, illusion projection, and technopathy.

Their powers manifest as golden energy forming intricate designs with a circles-and-lines motif, usually over their hands, their armor, or other affected objects.

Few things are able to permanently harm, much less kill, Eternals.

Eternals drained of cosmic energy "die" shortly: their skin quickly takes on a greyish pallor, cracks in places like alabaster, and become etched with the circles-and-lines motif prevalent in their technology and aesthetics.

Their deactivated bodies can be cremated by regular fires.

Ajak

Eternal Physiology: By design from the Celestials, Ajak was an Eternal possessing superhuman strength, durability, speed, agility, stamina, reflexes, and healing, numerous times superior than any normal human being, as well as immortality and being able to manipulate cosmic energy to a certain degree.
Superhuman Strength: Like all Eternals, Ajak possessed great superhuman strength, numerous times stronger than any normal human being. She was able to hold a Deviant much larger than her long enough to grab a shotgun and in the same fight she used the shotgun to hit the Deviant on the head with enough force to push him back.

Ajak's body was numerous times more resistant to physical and energy damage than any normal human being; and even when directly harmed, she shows impressive pain threshold, barely fazed when Thena impaled her hand with one of the latter's conjured energy-based weapon. She was, therefore, able to effortlessly land on her feet, completely unharmed after falling from several stories when Ikaris pushed her to the Deviants. Ajak also showed her resistance to ionizing radiation when she met Phastos in Hiroshima that had just recently been nuked, with the latter showed no signs of radiation poisoning.

Superhuman Speed: Ajak could run and move at great superhuman speed, much faster than any normal human being. She was quick enough to pick up a shotgun in a split second and shoot a Deviant after pushing him back.

Superhuman Agility: Ajak naturally possessed far greater agility, equilibrium, flexibility, dexterity, balance, and body coordination than any normal human being.
Superhuman Stamina: Ajak's advanced musculature was considerably more efficient than any normal human being. As a result, her muscles virtually did not produce fatigue toxins during physical activity. Her endurance allowed her to exercise her maximum capacity for an extremely long period of time without tiring at all.

Ajak could react and dodge objects traveling at high speeds, much quicker than any normal human being. She was able to quickly block Thena's attack by placing her hand in front of the latter's weapon, which was moving at high speed.

Regenerative Healing Factor: Ajak's metabolism enabled her to rapidly regenerate damaged bodily tissue with far greater speed and efficiency than any normal human being. However, she could not recover from Kro absorbing his powers.

Immortality: As an Eternal, Ajak was genetically able to live forever, without dying due to old age or illnesses.

Cosmic Energy Manipulation: By design of the Celestials, all Eternals are genetically capable of using cosmic energy. Each Eternal possesses a unique ability, all derived from the same cosmic power source. Ajak used her cosmic energy to heal others from injuries and illnesses.

Ajak was able to use her cosmic energy to heal humans and Eternals alike from injuries and illnesses. This applies even to herself, undoing any harm Ajak may have sustained to herself, and also affects the non-organic, as seen when healing her fellow Eternal's also renewed the attires they were garbed in.

Divine Communication: As the former Prime Eternal, Ajak possessed a Celestial Communication Sphere, allowing her to telepathically communicate directly with the Celestials, the architects of existence itself.

Abilities

Genius-Level Intellect: As a member of the Eternals' team of thinkers, Ajak was an incredibly smart person, having worked for the Celestials for thousands of years.

Master Tactician:
Being designed to be the leader of the Eternals, Ajak was a highly skilled war tactician who had led the Eternals to several victories across many centuries, against their enemies, the Deviants.

Expert Combatant: Despite being part of the Eternals' team of thinkers, Ajak was an expert hand-to-hand combatant. She was able to trade a few blows with Thena, when the latter lost control, before being stabbed by her.

While facing the Deviants in Alaska, Ajak used a shotgun to first hit one of them and then shoot him with great precision, before being stopped and killed by Kro.

Expert Marksman:
While facing the Deviants in Alaska, Ajak used a shotgun to first hit one of them and then shoot him with great precision, before being stopped and killed by Kro.

Multilingualism: Ajak was fluent in English. She also understand and could possibly speak Sumer and Aztec as she spent a lot of time living in Babylon and Tenochtitlan.

Equipment
Weapons
Sword: During her mission in Spain with Phastos, Ajak used a sword to fight a group of Deviants.
Shield: During her mission in Spain, Ajak also used a shield to fight a group of Deviants.
Shotgun: Ajak was able to get hold of a shotgun while she was being attacked by Kro and other Deviants.

Other Equipment
Celestial Armor: Ajak donned a gold-blue armor, equipped on her by the Domo. The armor was durable enough to withstand multiple blows during the fight with the Deviants.
Celestial Communication Sphere: Ajak used was a communication sphere given to her by Arishem the Judge, to communicate with the him as the leader of the Eternals. After Ajak passed away, it was inherited by her teammate, Sersi.
Horse Saddle: Ajak had a brown horse saddle she used while riding in South Dakota, which she kept in her homestead. She used this saddle while riding when she noticed that Ikaris had come to speak with her.
Vehicles
Domo: Ajak was sent to Earth in the Domo, where she and the nine others she was sent with were awoken. The Domo was used as a base of operations while the Eternals operated in Mesopotamia and its capitol city, Babylon.

**Gaastra** · 01-02-2023, 08:34 AM

Disney plus top 10 most viewed shows and movies of the year for america and world wide have been released again. No shock encanto is first in movies and simpsons rules shows!

Marvel made the list also. In america only one marvel movie! Worldwide a few! Last year we had a few marvel films so only one is a big surprise.

So, what are the most watched?

.
1. Encanto
2. Moana
3. Turning Red
4. Zootopia
5. Luca
6. Toy Story
7. Home Alone
8. Lightyear
9. Raya and the Last Dragon
10. Eternals

Series:
1. The Simpsons
2. Bluey
3. Mickey Mouse Clubhouse
4. Marvel's Spidey and His Amazing Friends
5. Jessie
6. The Book of Boba Fett
7. Star Wars: Andor
8. Star Wars: The Clone Wars
9. She-Hulk: Attorney at Law
10. Moon Knight

Worldwide--

Movies:
1. Encanto
2. Turning Red
3. Moana
4. Avengers: Endgame
5. Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness
6. Lightyear
7. Eternals
8. Thor: Love and Thunder
9. Hocus Pocus 2
10. Avatar

Series:
1. The Simpsons
2. Grey's Anatomy
3. Family Guy
4. Bluey
5. Modern Family
6. Malcolm in the Middle
7. She-Hulk: Attorney at Law
8. How I Met Your Mother
9. Star Wars: Andor
10. Moon Knight

It's funny eternals is the most watched marvel movie in america! "Fan bubbles" saying comes to mind!

Also surprised only one in america but ww they got dr strange 2, avengers endgame, thor love and thunder. Moon knight having top 10 views is also i surprise. She-hulk did well in both also.

Funny avatar is top in ww but didn't even make the top 10 in america! Crazy the decades old mickey mouse clubhouse is still huge over the replacement follow ups and jesse still big? Moana also has been in the top 5 from day one of disney plus!

https://flixpatrol.com/top10/disney/united-states/2022/
https://flixpatrol.com/top10/disney/world/2022/

**Gaastra** · 01-02-2023, 08:55 AM

Prayers to Jeremy Renner who was in a snow plow accident.

https://deadline.com/2023/01/jeremy-...ow-1235209718/

**mace11** · 01-02-2023, 09:10 AM

It looks like phase 6 will have 4 mcu movies a year and starting at phase 7 could have 4 to 5 because of the new heroes and talk of more(sentry,blue marvel, etc..) that are will pop up.
So that will happen for awhile for the story they want to tell,so i say bring on.
Remember the original plan after phase 3 was to have 4 to 5 mcu movies a year.
That will still happen.

I think the live series will increase too from 3 to 4,maybe 5 a year for awhile starting in phase 6 or 7.
Like i said bring on.

WB before wbd took over was planning to have more dc movies a year too(big screen and small screen) from 2 to 3 to 4 a year as well.
Heck next year they will have 4.
Hbo max was going to have more shows as well before wbd took over.

For phase 6 there are three missing movies.
I think it's shang chi 2,mutants and armor wars.
They could have the mutants movie in phase 7 and spiderman 4 in phase 6,but i think most likely spiderman 4 will be in phase 7 but who knows.

Anybody else wants to play the guessing game?

MCU Phase 6 Is Missing 3 Movies: Here’s What They Could Be
Marvel Studios has three empty release dates in 2025 and 2026. Here are some predictions for what MCU Phase 6's missing movies could be.

The Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 6 slate has three movie release dates left unclaimed, and Marvel Studios has a number of projects that could fill those missing spots. The announcement of Phase 6 at San Diego Comic-Con 2022 came with confirmation of three movies that would release. Audiences are preparing to see Fantastic 4 in February 2025, Avengers: The Kang Dynasty in May 2025, and Avengers: Secret Wars in May 2026. The latter was initially also set for 2025 but had to move due to other Multiverse Saga release date changes. But they are not the only MCU Phase 6 movies planned.

Marvel Studios and Disney are known for planting their flag on release dates years in advance, even if they do not yet officially know which films are going to release at the time. The current slate of upcoming Marvel movies includes Untitled Marvel Movies set for July 25, 2025, November 7, 2025, and February 13, 2026. It was previously announced that Avengers: Secret Wars ends MCU Phase 6 and the Multiverse Saga. Since Marvel has not announced what will come out on these dates, here is a prediction for the missing MCU Phase 6 movie release dates that fill the gap between the two Avengers movies.

Armor Wars Movie Should Release In MCU Phase 6
All signs point to Armor Wars being one of the MCU Phase 6 movies. Originally developed as a TV series for Disney+ starring Don Cheadle as James Rhodes, the War Machine-centric project has been in the works since 2020. The project took on a completely different direction when it was announced in 2022 that Marvel was redeveloping Armor Wars as a movie. It was later revealed that the change was because the story became too big for what a Disney+ show's budget could realistically pull off. Marvel Studios did not announce when audiences will see Armor Wars in theaters, but a 2025 or 2026 release date is realistic.

Considering Marvel Studios has already spent a few years developing Armor Wars and has a clear idea of what the story will be, changing the project to a movie could be simpler than if the project's release model was reversed. Marvel now needs to trim down whatever story they developed to unfold throughout a six-episode series and figure out how to fit it into a two-hour movie. The studio can take 2023 to get Armor Wars' story, creative team, and cast in place. Production needs to begin on the presumed MCU Phase 6 movie by the summer of 2024 if the July 2025 release date is the target.

Shang-Chi 2 Can Release In MCU Phase 6 (With A Big Change)
There is a chance one of the upcoming MCU Phase 6 movie release dates will be Shang-Chi 2. Following the great reception to Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings, Marvel Studios began developing a sequel with director Destin Daniel Cretton. The announcement came in late 2021 and seemed to point to Shang-Chi 2 happening very quickly. There has not been any update on the sequel since then other than Simu Liu confirming his return as Shang-Chi and Marvel affirming that it is in the works. Considering the timing of the original Shang-Chi 2 announcement, the movie releasing four or five years later in MCU Phase 6 is reasonable.

If Shang-Chi 2 occupies one of Marvel's Phase 6 movie release dates, it will likely require a significant change. Destin Daniel Cretton has become incredibly busy with Marvel Studios since the announcement of the sequel. He developed Wonder Man for Disney+ and will direct some episodes, but the more significant news came with him directing Avengers: The Kang Dynasty. The movie releasing in May 2025 makes it very difficult for Shang-Chi 2 to be one of the missing MCU Phase 6 movies and for Cretton to stay behind the camera. The movie might need a new director to make any of these release dates work.

World War Hulk Is Set Up For MCU Phase 6
Marvel has all the pieces set up to make World War Hulk as an MCU Phase 6 movie. The hopes of seeing another solo Hulk movie have not been high after The Incredible Hulk and the character's complicated movie release rights shared by Disney and Universal. However, there have been reports that Marvel Studios is meant to regain the Hulk rights in 2023. That would explain why Phase 4 did so much to set up a potential World War Hulk movie, which included Smart Hulk going back to Sakaar and meeting his secret son Skaar during the events of She-Hulk: Attorney At Law.

There are no official reports that Marvel is developing a World War Hulk movie, but rumors about the film being in the works became more prominent in 2021. The original rumors suggested that filming would begin in 2022, which did not happen. Marvel Studios could still have a plan for World War Hulk in Phase 6, even if it is not exactly like the comic story. The movie could instead focus on more Hulks being created on Earth. It could even have Hulk positioned as the villain after Kang makes the rage-filled hero an enemy of the Avengers and work for him.

MCU’s Spider-Man 4 Could Release In Phase 6
Spider-Man 4 could also be an MCU Phase 6 movie released in 2025 or 2026. The unfathomable success of Spider-Man: No Way Home brought confirmation from Sony producer Amy Pascal that another trilogy with Tom Holland's Spider-Man is in development. Marvel Studios has not officially confirmed plans for Spider-Man 4, 5, and 6. Still, there have been various reports that the sequel will happen and bring back director Jon Watts and Holland's co-stars Zendaya and Jacob Batalon. There are rumors that Daredevil and Kingpin could return in Spider-Man 4 to connect the street-level characters.

There is a chance that Spider-Man 4 releases in MCU Phase 6 but does not take any of these previously announced dates. The July 2025 date fits with the franchise's prior release patterns, and there have been instances where the Spider-Man MCU movies take dates previously claimed by Disney. However, Sony might also decide to release Spider-Man 4 in December 2025 to try and replicate Spider-Man: No Way Home's success. In any case, one MCU Phase 6 movie release date could easily go to Spider-Man 4 as long as Sony has not already released the film by July 2025.

Will MCU’s X-Men Reboot Happen In Phase 6?
Marvel might also have plans to make the MCU's X-Men reboot happen during Phase 6. Kevin Feige has confirmed that Marvel is working on planning the mutants' future, which has been evident through how many popped up in Phase 4. Between Kamala Khan and Namor's mutant origins, there is undoubtedly momentum building for the X-Men team's proper introduction. Theories might suggest that this will wait until Phase 7 and a possible Mutant Saga. However, having the X-Men get a movie between Avengers: The Kang Dynasty and Avengers: Secret Wars would allow them to factor into either film or both and change the outlook of MCU Phase 6's releases.

https://screenrant.com/mcu-phase-6-m...ng-prediction/

**mace11** · 01-02-2023, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by Gaastra

Disney plus top 10 most viewed shows and movies of the year for america and world wide have been released again. No shock encanto is first in movies and simpsons rules shows!

Marvel made the list also. In america only one marvel movie! Worldwide a few! Last year we had a few marvel films so only one is a big surprise.

So, what are the most watched?

Worldwide--

It's funny eternals is the most watched marvel movie in america! "Fan bubbles" saying comes to mind!

Also surprised only one in america but ww they got dr strange 2, avengers endgame, thor love and thunder. Moon knight having top 10 views is also i surprise. She-hulk did well in both also.

I think eternals 2,the marvels 2(maybe with blue marvel because i think he will pop up in the marvels) doctor strange 3,black panther 3 will all happen in phase 7 along with new hero movies and shows.

**Frontier** · 01-02-2023, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by Sutekh

Agreed. Although part of me feels that Angelina tends to eat up the focus when she's on-screen, and her character ended up getting the less 'in your face' role so that Gemma Chan's less dynamic presence as Sersi would be able to pull focus? We can agree or disagree on whether or not Angelina is a great actress, but she definitely draws attention on-screen, and I suspect that Gemma, who seems much less 'alpha female' might have faded into the background if Thena had a more dynamic role.

Honestly when your interpretation of Sersi isn't an alpha female, I feel like you're missing the point of the character.

It was a beautifully shot movie, and I liked the whole Celestial emergence part of it. (Indeed, I long wondered if that was the endgame to the Celestials creating mutants in 616 was about, eventually enough mutants being born to kick off their power kickstarting the birth of a new Celestial, which, unfortunately for them, would result in all those mutants, and the surrounding humans, being drawn into the forming Celestial and absorbed, having the same apocalyptic result as in the movie...)

Oh, definitely, even though it wasn't a Kirby film it was a very beautifully shot and depicted film.

And MCU Druig is like 10,000x more likable than comics Druig.

Am I the only one who feels like the plot and the Ikaris twist made some of the more problematic aspects of Druig fall by the wayside rather than get actually addressed?

Originally Posted by Alpha

I loved Eternals. And I would say Thena is the best portrayal of mental health issues in any superhero movie or show.

That's fair. All the same I don't naturally associate it with Thena.

**mace11** · 01-02-2023, 06:10 PM

More talk about eternals here.
Disney+'s Top 10 Performing 2022 Movies And TV Shows Reveals A Lot

**Gaastra** · 01-02-2023, 07:01 PM

Looks like the plow ran over Jeremy Renners leg from early reports! (Not confirmed) Ouch! Again, prayers go out to him and hope he gets better.

**Frontier** · 01-03-2023, 09:07 AM

My prayers go out to Jeremy Renner.

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