Barry and Iris’s could always marry again. But it wouldn’t be the same without his parents, Al, and Dexter being there.
Barry and Iris’s could always marry again. But it wouldn’t be the same without his parents, Al, and Dexter being there.
Last edited by KurtW95; 08-13-2018 at 07:50 AM.
Good Marvel characters- Bring Them Back!!!
Flashpoint was just a Flash story that they decided hey this can screw everything up. The biggest sin to me about Flahspoint (besides almost everything about it) is the fact that it doesn't feel that epic. It has like 6 main focal characters and some more characters are focused on in tie-ins. Compare that to CoIE which had everyone, hell Identity Crisis a nonsensical murder mystery story has a larger cast and scope to it than Flashpoint.
"It's too bad she won't live! But then again, who does? - Gaff Blade Runner
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He's still with Iris.
That was Flash Rebirth., his parents
He got that back., his relationship with his nephew via his wif
They barely had one, and there's technically still time.his relationship with his grandson...
He also got younger. Barry had the girl, Barry still has the girl. Doesn't look like a loss to me. Specially since he now didn't have to mourn her murder, stand trial and then be reunited with her just to die 3 months later.
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Don and Dawn?
Did the Tornado Twins still help fight off the invasion?
How about XS?
It's all very nebulous at the moment.
It's actually starting to give me the shits.
I miss not knowing how the Flash Family timeline worked.
Is John Fox still a Flash in the future?
What about the legacy highlighted in Chain Lightning? Does any of it still apply?
Jay, Joan. Max not to mention Johnny & Jesse.
"My name is Wally West. I'm the fastest man alive!"
I'll try being nicer if you try being smarter.
I'd still say it was a loss since he doesn't remember the life and family that they built together. He doesn't remember Bart or Jay or his and Iris's children. He may (or may not) be younger, but everyone got younger after Flashpoint. They still lost a great deal.
Last edited by Green Goblin of Sector 2814; 08-15-2018 at 11:35 PM.
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I also have to say that the initial setup following Flash: Rebirth, with Wally his family and history still around just pushed into the background for a bit, wouldn't have been that bad, certainly not bad enough to warrant backlash against Barry. Especially as Johns had backup features for Wally planned and would have expanded the Flash mythos in a similar way to the GL mythos. Maybe Wally wouldn't have been the lead anymore, but he had two + decades while Barry fans got jack for most of it, worse things have happened to characters.
Though unfortunately, worse things were right around the corner....
That's because it's really obvious that Flashpoint was never intended to be a Crisis-level event.
It was supposed to be a Flash-centric summer crossover in which Barry learns an important lesson about time travel, a bunch of writers get to write some non-continuity Elseworlds-type stories in an exciting "timeline that's falling apart," and everyone has a wonderful time.
As a bonus, when the crossover was finished, because the timeline might NOT have been completely put back together correctly, any particular character that DC felt needed a swift retcon kick could've received one. There was lots of talk about nuking Superman's marriage going into the crossover, for example.
But then DC basically got told, in no uncertain terms, to do something big or risk the possibility of shutting the whole thing down. So they hurriedly turned Flashpoint into a full-on reboot vehicle.
And boy, does it show.
Nothing in Flashpoint itself gives any foreshadowing of the ending. The story moves along, as is, until the final few pages of the last issue, when all of a sudden Pandora shows up (she hadn't appeared before), and BAM! New 52. It's a splice job, and an ugly one at that.
It also explains why about half of the New 52 titles feel like they could've been part of the old universe. JLI, Hawk and Dove, and a host of other titles just felt like old universe titles that had last second editorial hand-waves jammed into them to make them feel like they belonged in the reboot. It's no wonder that so many of them were cancelled so quickly... they were square pegs in a round hole that hand't even been fully drilled yet.
Someday, I'd LOVE to read an oral history of how the New 52 came about. It must have been a constant rolling fustercluck.
And I still think Flashpoint was basically a retelling of The Wizard of Oz, with Barry as Dorothy Gale.
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What Barry has lost, was his sense of heroism.
He was the Flash because he felt it was the right thing to do.
He wasn't motivated by the death of his mum or wrongly imprisoned dad.
He was also a scientist. He was SMART.
While the Rebirth Flash title has been fairly decent, when did we last see an INTELLIGENT Barry?
"My name is Wally West. I'm the fastest man alive!"
I'll try being nicer if you try being smarter.
“Somewhere, in our darkest night, we made up the story of a man who will never let us down.”
- Grant Morrison on Superman
Last edited by KC; 08-16-2018 at 07:39 PM.
“Somewhere, in our darkest night, we made up the story of a man who will never let us down.”
- Grant Morrison on Superman