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    Default Wonder Woman Controversial Opinions Part 2

    Since larger, older threads contributed to the forum issues of the past few weeks, I'm rebooting this one, so please start anew!!
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    The vilification Diana got for killing Max Lord was DC trying to have their cake and eat it too. They knew turning a fan favorite into a villain would be controversial so they decided to make the audience hate Diana for killing Max rather than them for making him a villain and thus necessitating Diana killing Max in the first place.
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    Diana was almost a home wrecker in post-crisis with how much she flirted with Superman when he was involved with Lois, and she rarely ever got called out for it, where as Clark once took Lana to task for the same thing (although that was much worse at the time), if the post-crisis canon had stayed past Convergence, I like to think Diana finally apologised to both Lois and Clark for that behaviour once Jon was born.

    Obviously, it's kind of impossible to want that now since in this timeline there were no romantic feelings, but it just sticks in my craw Diana got away with that for years and never received a comeuppance that could benefit her as a character.

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    I thought Brian Azzarello's run was better Greg Rucka's rebirth run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jump View Post
    I thought Brian Azzarello's run was better Greg Rucka's rebirth run.
    Stands to reason.
    They're writers of comparable talent, and Azz wasn't handicapped by having his story be required to be about how the last couple of years didn't happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carabas View Post
    Stands to reason.
    They're writers of comparable talent, and Azz wasn't handicapped by having his story be required to be about how the last couple of years didn't happen.
    Was it specifically mandated by DC that Ruka's run be about upending the Azz run, or was it his own personal mission to do so simply because it didn't suit his tastes and his interpretation of the character? They can claim the former, but his storytelling choices and not so subtle in-story swipes show it was the latter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miles To Go View Post
    Diana was almost a home wrecker in post-crisis with how much she flirted with Superman when he was involved with Lois...
    a) Was she aware Superman is Clark Kent at the time?
    b) Was this when they were marooned on Asgard for 3000-ish years?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carabas View Post
    a) Was she aware Superman is Clark Kent at the time?
    b) Was this when they were marooned on Asgard for 3000-ish years?
    Yes, she was aware of who he was, she knew he was involved with Lois, and even had the gall to tell Lois SHE was Clark's best friend when we all know that's the wife's job.

    And yeah, that time they were stuck on Asguard where Clark rejected her on the last night...but that sadly did'nt stop her from continuing to push herself on him and not know her boundaries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miles To Go View Post
    Yes, she was aware of who he was, she knew he was involved with Lois, and even had the gall to tell Lois SHE was Clark's best friend when we all know that's the wife's job.

    And yeah, that time they were stuck on Asguard where Clark rejected her on the last night...but that sadly did'nt stop her from continuing to push herself on him and not know her boundaries.
    When you haven't seen your human partner with the 100 years top lifespan for 3000 years, you're no longer involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miles To Go View Post
    Yes, she was aware of who he was, she knew he was involved with Lois, and even had the gall to tell Lois SHE was Clark's best friend when we all know that's the wife's job.

    And yeah, that time they were stuck on Asguard where Clark rejected her on the last night...but that sadly did'nt stop her from continuing to push herself on him and not know her boundaries.
    um no...that's not the wife's job...your wife can be your best friend but not necessarily so. She should be your friend though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miles To Go View Post
    Diana was almost a home wrecker in post-crisis with how much she flirted with Superman when he was involved with Lois, and she rarely ever got called out for it, where as Clark once took Lana to task for the same thing (although that was much worse at the time), if the post-crisis canon had stayed past Convergence, I like to think Diana finally apologised to both Lois and Clark for that behaviour once Jon was born.

    Obviously, it's kind of impossible to want that now since in this timeline there were no romantic feelings, but it just sticks in my craw Diana got away with that for years and never received a comeuppance that could benefit her as a character.
    The feelings were mutual. Both unresolved, complicated and didn’t just go away easily. Numerous times Clark thought about what could’ve been with her. Clark was the one that pursued her first from the start. No one should apologize for how they feel especially when they had an attraction and developing a relationship (whatever it led to) before being involved with anyone else. Will Clark apologize for being jealous (18th letter)?

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    Diana being the Goddess of War could’ve been an interesting concept as well as the “God Mode” power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LoveStar View Post
    The feelings were mutual. Both unresolved, complicated and didn’t just go away easily. Numerous times Clark thought about what could’ve been with her. Clark was the one that pursued her first from the start. No one should apologize for how they feel especially when they had an attraction and developing a relationship (whatever it led to) before being involved with anyone else. Will Clark apologize for being jealous (18th letter)?
    Miles was talking about Diana pursuing Clark when he was married to Lois not before. That's a crappy thing to do no matter your feelings.

    And yeah, Clark was being an ass in the 18th Letter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Z View Post
    Miles was talking about Diana pursuing Clark when he was married to Lois not before. That's a crappy thing to do no matter your feelings.

    And yeah, Clark was being an ass in the 18th Letter.
    She still never did. Clark called her his best friend just as much as she called him hers. Clark showed his feelings just as much too. So to only target Diana is unfair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miles To Go View Post
    Diana was almost a home wrecker in post-crisis with how much she flirted with Superman when he was involved with Lois, and she rarely ever got called out for it, where as Clark once took Lana to task for the same thing (although that was much worse at the time), if the post-crisis canon had stayed past Convergence, I like to think Diana finally apologised to both Lois and Clark for that behaviour once Jon was born.

    Obviously, it's kind of impossible to want that now since in this timeline there were no romantic feelings, but it just sticks in my craw Diana got away with that for years and never received a comeuppance that could benefit her as a character.
    Like when Jeb Friedman got called out as well? Oh wait...

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    That doesn't mean you're obligated to hook up with someone else.
    Doesn't mean they are obligated to never date again when their partner dies either, plenty of people marry again after their spouse dies.

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