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    Default John Byrne Speaking With Marvel Again

    John Byrne's personal project X-Men: Elsewhen caught the attention of C.B Cebulski, and he reached out to Byrne to discuss opportunities for fresh work



    https://www.newsarama.com/41335-john...-new-work.html

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    Byrne? Byrne hasn't had anything interesting to say creatively in nearly thirty years.

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    If this leads to his Namor issues getting the Omni treatment I'm on board!
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    Hope it works out.
    I would love to see some new work by Mr. Byrne.

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    Great news! Hope they put him on something big and not just something on the periphery.

    EDIT: Changed post because the original one was a reply to something removed. I do not want people to get the wrong idea and think I was the first person to bring an argument about personal character into the thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KurtW95 View Post
    I don’t like some of the things he’s said either, but he’s still a legend in the world of comic books. And he doesn’t put his politics in his books, so you don’t have to worry about that. Plus, Marvel currently hires some people who say some pretty gross things. One I can think of, is horribly racist, predjudiced, and anti-semitic. Yet, he still can have multiple series and nobody says a word on it.
    What?
    Of bloody course John Byrne puts his politics in his writings. Every writer does that. You thought Lew Wein creating a German X-Men wasn't political?

    Didn't you just say Byrne created the first gay superhero?
    He was half of one of the first really politically minded X-Men runs too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carabas View Post
    What?
    Of bloody course John Byrne puts his politics in his writings. Every writer does that. You thought Lew Wein creating a German X-Men wasn't political?

    Didn't you just say Byrne created the first gay superhero?
    He was half of one of the first really politically minded X-Men runs too.
    There’s a difference in writing about faux-politics and metaphors that anyone can project their ideology on (1960s-2000s X-Men) and explicit examples for the real world based your own views. And far from every writer puts their politics in their writing. That is only a recent development for people who aren’t very creatively with a few excetions like the Green Arrow/Green Lantern run, which was well-meaning (trying to represent common contrasting political views), but probably a mistake.
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    Oh Thank GWAD!!!

    A writer/artist with some actual talent is coming back on. I hope Marvel throws as many books at him as he can manage!

    I would love to have him on Namor, FF, and the Avengers to start! I would buy the hell out of those books and pass them out as if they were condoms in a sex ed class!


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    CBR's article on the subject:

    https://www.cbr.com/john-byrne-retur...l-Distribution

    Though they claim the source as Newsarama, so I doubt there's anything new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KurtW95 View Post
    There’s a difference in writing about faux-politics and metaphors that anyone can project their ideology on (1960s-2000s X-Men) and explicit examples for the real world based your own views. And far from every writer puts their politics in their writing. That is only a recent development for people who aren’t very creatively with a few excetions like the Green Arrow/Green Lantern run, which was well-meaning (trying to represent common contrasting political views), but probably a mistake.
    Absence of politics is impossible.
    The X-Men O5 are all white, straight, and male, with one token female who is the weakest of the group. That is very political. You just don't recognise it as such because they're politics you like.

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    Did some digging online about this and so far nothing I have read so far has been outright "intentionally" disrespectful. For the most part he is posting John Bryne is posting his view on the subject matter. On an on-going discussion in general.

    Does anyone have a link where he is outright trashing the trans community?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonsChi View Post
    Did some digging online about this and so far nothing I have read so far has been outright "intentionally" disrespectful. For the most part he is posting John Bryne is posting his view on the subject matter.

    Does anyone have a link where he is outright trashing the trans community?
    Sure...

    https://www.themarysue.com/john-byrn...-trans-people/

    When was the last time Byrne's art was watchable anyway? He has deteriorated immensely since the 90s.

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    IMHO, Byrne's art, once so dynamic and exciting, has lost a lot of it's punch in the last couple of decades or so, becoming too stiff and done by the numbers. That said, I kind of liked what I've been seeing on Facebook of his pencils in this new personal project, so I'd be quite curious to see some new work by him, especially if he manages to get a good inker (I never liked Byrne inking his own work).

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    Quote Originally Posted by KurtW95 View Post
    Marvel currently hires some people who say some pretty gross things. One I can think of, is horribly racist, predjudiced, and anti-semitic. Yet, he still can have multiple series and nobody says a word on it.
    Names please.
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    Never read anything of Byrne's, so I don't really have an opinion on his getting back in the game. If he has said nasty things in the past, I hope he's cleaned up his act now.

    Quote Originally Posted by KurtW95 View Post
    There’s a difference in writing about faux-politics and metaphors that anyone can project their ideology on (1960s-2000s X-Men) and explicit examples for the real world based your own views. And far from every writer puts their politics in their writing. That is only a recent development for people who aren’t very creatively with a few excetions like the Green Arrow/Green Lantern run, which was well-meaning (trying to represent common contrasting political views), but probably a mistake.
    Some of the greatest pieces of fiction ever created were about "explicit examples from the real world" (including the comics genre). It's all in the execution; is the subject in question a well-written piece that explores said topic? It's not a creative bankrupt choice in and of itself, not is it anything new; writers have been doing it for as long as written language existed. (You want truly apolitical fiction? No such thing. All writers bring their own opinions into the work in one way or another).
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