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    Quote Originally Posted by DT Winslow View Post
    There’s no Starman in R.E.B.E.L.S. ‘94, ‘95 or ‘96.
    I know that. I was there. I was reading REBEL and not Starman. What was it about Starman that you found puts it in the top twenty stories ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrbrklyn View Post
    IMO it is simply not a good read. It has a rabid fan base, especially because it has a gay protagonist, but it just wasn't good, or at least I didn't find anything compelling in it. At that time there was a lot of good books on the market...

    I am interest, though, in why you would include it your own top 20..
    I thought it was a great read!
    It took a stale unused character and created a new mythology. Long running storylines, well fleshed out characters and we got to watch a new lead character grow into a well rounded adult and hero!
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    This list is nonsense as Alan Moore’s Swamp Thing isn’t included.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robotman View Post
    This list is nonsense as Alan Moore’s Swamp Thing isn’t included.


    Neither is Animal Man...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrbrklyn View Post
    especially because it has a gay protagonist
    It doesn't have a gay protagonist. Jack is heterosexual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jekyll View Post
    Sad day, no Starman
    Quote Originally Posted by Robotman View Post
    This list is nonsense as Alan Moore’s Swamp Thing isn’t included.
    Quote Originally Posted by mrbrklyn View Post
    Neither is Animal Man...
    Meh - this list is just one guy's opinion, which is all it can be.

    If it was my list, Swamp Thing and Animal Man would be in, but Englehart's Batman, Green Lantern/Green Arrow, anything by John Ostrander and anything by Chris Claremont (which he said he'd put at 21) would't even make my top 100. Planetary wouldn't make my list, but Transmetropolitan or Ellis's Stormwatch might.

    Starman might make my list. I need to reread it, but I remember it upping and downing a bit, and I have a feeling it might not stand up so well these days.
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    The one I wish I really included was GL Mosiac.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dancj View Post
    It doesn't have a gay protagonist. Jack is heterosexual.
    Yes - that was the point I was trying to make. Mikaal (the blue alien Starman) was in a relationship with a man, but Jack was hetero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrbrklyn View Post
    The one I wish I really included was GL Mosiac.
    With the recent sentencing of Gerard Jones, GL Mosaic may forever be off many lists.

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    I need to read American Flag. No Starman and Hellboy huh... My number 1 always be Sandman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptCleghorn View Post
    With the recent sentencing of Gerard Jones, GL Mosaic may forever be off many lists.

    (A)s I was told at the time, it didn’t fit with DC editorial vision (whatever that means). Sales didn’t matter, fan support didn’t matter; the first issue sold about 210,000 copies and my last issue sold about 70,000, so there was plenty of support for the book. It was marked for cancellation when issue #5 came out, and they allowed Gerry Jones a year to wrap it up, but there was no doubt that it was being cancelled because somebody upstairs just didn’t care for it. So, I had a feeling after a while of creatively being against a brick wall, and got out before the end. You pay your money, you takes your chances. That’s the biz.[9]

    The Jones story is just bizzarre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gurz View Post
    I need to read American Flag
    Yes - you do. Be prepared for a very intense experience.

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    you should read all of these, but try to find Ms Tree as well. Great great read

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    Quote Originally Posted by j9ac9k View Post
    Yes - that was the point I was trying to make. Mikaal (the blue alien Starman) was in a relationship with a man, but Jack was hetero.
    Yes - I was completely wrong in this and somewhat duncelled on the topic. I will have to go back over those books and reread them. I had found them worth buying and reading but never thought enough of them to put them on the top of my stacks for reading time. But I remember folks in the comic shops being truly excited by the character, to my puzzlement.

    I will need to reread and discover!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dancj View Post
    Starman might make my list. I need to reread it, but I remember it upping and downing a bit, and I have a feeling it might not stand up so well these days.
    I read the complete series for the first time last year and with the exception of Waid’s Flash, which I read when as they were released, I’ve never had a comic reading experience that moved me as much as Starman did. It is a beautiful, well thought out, and great read. I’m in the middle of re-reading and In my opinion it still holds up well.......with the exception of many of Jack’s references of course However, I think it adds to the experience as Jack lives in the past anyway!
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