Astonishing X-Men Annual 1 (2018)

[Wiccan]

I don't understand why people are arguing about power levels here. The scene and the whole situation have nothing to do with this. It's not a fight. The O4 are just... Talking normally and he just does it. There's no fight and I can't see how exactly Jean could have stopped it.

[The tall man]

I really liked how Xavier/X was portrayed in this issue. For too long Xavier was the X-men's whipping boy, everyone was blaming and criticizing him for any and everything. Scott kicked him out of his own house and he was essentially exiled from the X-men. And never did he stand up for himself or push back, he just took all the crap that came his way. Then of course he was killed. But now he's back, reborn in a sense. He has a new attitude and agenda, and from the looks of things he is no longer gonna be anybody's whipping boy. Judging by the annual X is poised to have a presence in the narrative going forward and i'm happy for that. The character asassination of Xavier was overdone and tiresome and Xavier himself was cuckolded and treated like ****. Both in universe and by readers. X is a hard reset for Xavier, younger and as powerful as ever. I hope to see alot of him in the future, whether working with or without the X-men. But regardless I don't want a kowtowing, apologizing Xavier. I want a X that takes no crap and gives zero f#@ks. He's one of the most powerful mutant/beings on the planet, he should be a major player in mutant affairs. Maybe start a whole new team to be an alternative to the X-men. Redefine and recommit to his dream for a new era because clearly the X-men have gone away from it.

[butterflykyss]

Kinda like how some storm fans do on this forum anytime she loses a fight? Or someone even suggests she could lose a fight? Lol. Every fan base has them. It’s sad.

well storm fans have valid point. the jean fans who attacked him didn't. x is a more powerful telepath than jean.

[Grey]

I don't understand why people are arguing about power levels here. The scene and the whole situation have nothing to do with this. It's not a fight. The O4 are just... Talking normally and he just does it. There's no fight and I can't see how exactly Jean could have stopped it.

Yes I agree. I suppose some people see it as a fight or something that could have been avoided if one were weaker/stronger than they are.

[Agatha's Ghost]

Her instincts and training ought to have prevented the mind-wipe. Either, Jean was being overly trusting, she was taken by surprise since she was busy shouting, or she has gotten rusty. She *is* a powerful telekinetic, but he is the world's premier telepath. He overpowered her before in the Dark Phoenix Saga, which is a shame. You'd think Jean would have successfully fought him off in order to prevent the patriarchy from dominating her one more time.

[Havok83]

Her instincts and training ought to have prevented the mind-wipe. Either, Jean was being overly trusting, she was taken by surprise since she was busy shouting, or she has gotten rusty. She *is* a powerful telekinetic, but he is the world's premier telepath. He overpowered her before in the Dark Phoenix Saga, which is a shame. You'd think Jean would have successfully fought him off in order to prevent the patriarchy from dominating her one more time.

this makes the most sense. Jean's been dead for 14 years and just returned. This probably took place just a few issues after PR. She hasnt had much chance to train too much and I doubt she's had to face off against many if any villians in this time. She's definitely not at her peak

[Disciple of Redd]

So I re-read this and I'm just not feeling it.

Not digging the idea that the X-Men are actually joyless in their endeavors and hate their lives, that they were dragged into this by a nefarious bald man and can't leave.

I don't like the shadow it puts over the idea of the X-Men at all, really.

I hope we don't cut ourselves on this comic's edge.

[MyriVerse]

Rosenberg back true to form, sucking and sucking. Every bit as pointless of a read as that Kitty annual.

Rosenberg, thru Jean, calls out some nonsense about weaponized nostalgia, but that is all Rosenberg seems intent on doing. This is all characters continuing to spin their wheels in mud.

[DDM]

this makes the most sense. Jean's been dead for 14 years and just returned. This probably took place just a few issues after PR. She hasnt had much chance to train too much and I doubt she's had to face off against many if any villians in this time. She's definitely not at her peak

Xavier also just returned from the dead. Shouldn’t he be rusty too?

[Agatha's Ghost]

Xavier also just returned from the dead. Shouldn’t he be rusty too?

Charles spent the entire time psychically battling Amahl Farouk. Jean Grey spent it waitressing. Marvel is an incredibly sexist institution.

[Havok83]

Xavier also just returned from the dead. Shouldn’t he be rusty too?

No as he's been battling the Shadow King for quite some time. He came back at his peak

[DDM]

Charles spent the entire time psychically battling Amahl Farouk. Jean Grey spent it waitressing. Marvel is an incredibly sexist institution.

Waitressing sounds more stressful than spiders.

No as he's been battling the Shadow King for quite some time. He came back at his peak

So he came back exhaused while Jean had a nice restorative Phoenix nap?

[Havok83]

So he came back exhaused while Jean had a nice restorative Phoenix nap?

No. He never claimed to be exhausted

[yogaflame]

No. He never claimed to be exhausted

Yeah, battling Shadow King on infinite planes of existence simultaneously is a breeze.

[Havok83]

Yeah, battling Shadow King on infinite planes of existence simultaneously is a breeze.

Xavier is apparently the bestest, most powerful uber telepath so yeah it was a breeze for him