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    Quote Originally Posted by Judge Dredd View Post
    Can DC take any royalties that Jones would get and donate them to some form of child abuse charity/group. Use his work to do something positive instead of just ignoring it.
    That's probably the only way to republish the stories without a backlash, JD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zero Hunter View Post
    He is a disgusting human being. It makes me wonder if DC will ever reprint any of his work again. He did a lot of Green Lantern stuff in the 90's including Green Lantern: Mosaic, Guy Gardner: Reborn, Emerald Dawn I and II, and the first 4 years of Green Lantern vol 3. Add in almost 3 years of Justice League Europe and that a lot of stuff that might never be reprinted again.
    Best way to make someone forget about what a person wrote-get someone to surpass that work.

    When you think Black Panther-who thinks of Kirby's run? Everyone thinks PRIEST.

    So for John & Guy-especially John since Jones did his only solo book-someone is going to have to do a solo run with John and probably Guy too.

    Plus, who would buy it at this point?
    Lets see if it's made CLEAR his stuff would NEVER sniff reprints and lets not forget GL Mosaic has NEVER been in trade.

    You don't think those issues would SKYROCKET in price? Especially if John Stewart gets in a film?

    How many folks besides ME has that complete run?

    How many times have we seen books skyrocket on RUMORS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judge Dredd View Post
    Can DC take any royalties that Jones would get and donate them to some form of child abuse charity/group. Use his work to do something positive instead of just ignoring it.
    No. That would be theft.
    It's the law that's supposed to punish him, not his publisher. Nor an angry mob.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judge Dredd View Post
    Can DC take any royalties that Jones would get and donate them to some form of child abuse charity/group. Use his work to do something positive instead of just ignoring it.
    No, they probably can't. When someone becomes a criminal they don't lose there right to earn a living or to copyrights they own, or their rights under business contracts.

    DC can take their share of any profits and do that if they wish.

    In 7 years, this fellow will be sprung out of jail, and monitored and in therapy with his debt to society paid in full. You aren't allowed to stone him, or take his ability to make money away, or to prevent him from writing etc. You might not like it, but that is how the judicial system in the US works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrbrklyn View Post
    No, they probably can't. When someone becomes a criminal they don't lose there right to earn a living or to copyrights they own, or their rights under business contracts.

    DC can take their share of any profits and do that if they wish.

    In 7 years, this fellow will be sprung out of jail, and monitored and in therapy with his debt to society paid in full. You aren't allowed to stone him, or take his ability to make money away, or to prevent him from writing etc. You might not like it, but that is how the judicial system in the US works.
    Which is why I don't think they'll ever reprint them. I think they'd rather just skip the royalties and rewrite history so that he doesn't get credit for anything. It's just easier than dealing with the backlash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by superduperman View Post
    Which is why I don't think they'll ever reprint them. I think they'd rather just skip the royalties and rewrite history so that he doesn't get credit for anything. It's just easier than dealing with the backlash.
    They can't avoid it and they won't lose the profits either. In a few months the anger wil die down and the publishing aspect will be business as usual. It is not DC's fault that one of their writers went criminally insane and decided that sex with children was marketable idea. and the material jones wrote for dc was in no way criminally exploitative
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    although frankly, I hope they don't revisit Emerald Dawn. I never liked the storyline or dragging Hal Jordan through the depressive mud like they did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superduperman View Post
    Which is why I don't think they'll ever reprint them. I think they'd rather just skip the royalties and rewrite history so that he doesn't get credit for anything. It's just easier than dealing with the backlash.
    As much as I loved Mosaic when it came out, the major plot point of kids with GL rings, getting adult responsibilities, and Hal's admonishing John for it really seems tainted to me now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptCleghorn View Post
    As much as I loved Mosaic when it came out, the major plot point of kids with GL rings, getting adult responsibilities, and Hal's admonishing John for it really seems tainted to me now.

    To be honest, I don't even remember the story line anymore because they never finished it. I only remember it starting very weirdly and then got much better and I really came to like it and poof it was gone. I'd have to go back and read it.

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    They'll reprint his work at some point. And further, I think they should. If the topic is "Jones, the man", then obviously he's a despicable human being. No argument can be made otherwise. If the topic is "Jones, the author & comic creator", then his work shouldn't be hidden away. There's so much in this world we would have to hide/destroy if we held all fiction/art accountable for the despicable actions of their creators. 'Through the Looking Glass' was famously written by a guy with a disgusting relationship/obsession to an underage girl, for example. We should not celebrate these people, but we can still enjoy their work.

    Jones wrote a good comic. Gunn made good movies, Gibson made movies that live in cinematic history, we all still eat at Subway. That's just my thoughts on it, anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clark_Kent View Post
    They'll reprint his work at some point. And further, I think they should. If the topic is "Jones, the man", then obviously he's a despicable human being. No argument can be made otherwise. If the topic is "Jones, the author & comic creator", then his work shouldn't be hidden away. There's so much in this world we would have to hide/destroy if we held all fiction/art accountable for the despicable actions of their creators. 'Through the Looking Glass' was famously written by a guy with a disgusting relationship/obsession to an underage girl, for example. We should not celebrate these people, but we can still enjoy their work.

    Jones wrote a good comic. Gunn made good movies, Gibson made movies that live in cinematic history, we all still eat at Subway. That's just my thoughts on it, anyway.
    i'm going of in a tangent here... but, what's the story with subway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by liwanag View Post
    i'm going of in a tangent here... but, what's the story with subway?
    Jared Fogel, their old spokesperson (large man who lost weight eating at Subway), is currently serving prison time for Statutory and child pornography. It may have been a stretch for me to mention Subway, now that I think of it :P

    I should have said "many of us still enjoy Kevin Spacey films, even though Spacey's who he is."
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    I thought Emerald Dawn I was written by Giffen?
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    Quote Originally Posted by superduperman View Post
    I wondered the same thing. I can't imagine they ever will. Plus, who would buy it at this point?
    I would totally buy them. Green Lantern #25 Hal vs. Guy was one of my first modern Green Lantern books and cemented my Hal Fandom. His Hal was always one of my all time favorite characters ever. His John and Guy I consider to be the definitive versions of the characters. Everything after Parallax just feels like a retconned and retooled versions of the characters to fit whatever agenda the writers wanted to exploit... but the GL characters in the 90's actually felt like they were the natural extensions of the characters in the 80's and the characters in the 70's...

    And there are a LOT of holes in my collections. If they gave me a chance to replace and complete those runs, I'd be all about it. Besides... I absolutely LOVE M.D. Bright's artwork. My favorite Hal artist ever.

    Reality is the guy is a horrendous and horrible human being who should rot in prison.... but I don't base my collecting habits on people's personal lives. I probably would never buy anything NEW from him and want him out of the industry, but I'm not rewriting the past to punish him.

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