yea now that you bring it up they don't have much appearances to gauge their strength but then do you feel they only have the strength without the invulnerability that usually accompanies it cuz the scourge killed them in one shot in the story which either implies they were not all that hot or only had the strength without the invulnerability or the gun was specifically designed to kill them.
I hate to bring it up but this kind of exemplifies the problem with old Poccy lips. I think arby's mentioned this already but the same writer later wrote a fight between him and Unworthy Thor that ended with Thor positively wrecking his ****.
Now admittedly Thor had his Celestial Kryptonite axe for that one buut Apocalypse claimed he was more than just his armour and then got his butt whupped anyway. It seems writers can't help but treat old Poccy as some sort of inconsistent joke
This doesn't really take away from the Hulk thing but the Hulk was also in all sorts of pain in that time period, passing out from said pain and stuff in fact. Further, there's stuff like that Gorr fight that shows current Thor is more powerful than young Thor (or indeed the second Apocalypse fight)
All in all, the Hulk thing is at best an aberration, if even that considering what Hulk was going through at the time. Apocalypse in general doesn't appear to be as strong as Thor /Hulk
Mileage may vary on this one. There were some movement lines near his arms as he readies his axe sure. But his voice is strong and unwavering unlike Apoc who's voice is shaking and much more near death. I mean Thor gets up and runs out of there confidently saying one liners, as to how significant that one panel of motion lines was for his health.
It reads to me more like playing possum, but I'll admit this is one of those "ehhh" moments that's hard to argue in any direction.
Fair enough. So do you feel Young Thor could have similarly restrained the Hulk had he been in that position with those cables?
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Either way, my note is that it doesn't mean much when the Hulk, calmed down into a drugged out stupor no less from even his mindless state such that he's all drugged up and not wanting to fight, and immediately afterwards straight up makes a pouty face and whines about his friend being gone, does the thing I'm saying the Hulk would do if people not up to snuff tried that crap.
They had a super charged up glowing cord and some related stat nonsense that wasn't all that grand.
If the only other showing to argue otherwise involves the Hulk being jobbed out by a snake, that kinda otherwise makes my argument there ;p
Ya know, if I keep participating in this thread much longer, I may very well transform into the dreaded 4 am Denny's. And nobody wants that.
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That looks like dude is getting by on having an axe designed for the purpose of mauling the crap out of Apocalypse. The axe is how he blocks a full on shot from him, and otherwise considerably effs him up. The main thing Thor does of himself there is dodge the one thing.
I am at that comfortable in saying that repeated, deep axe wounds will impair how gud someone am fight.
Yeah, but Young Thor had the enchanted axe for their second fight, but according to you, was in need of a rally to not die.
Him suddenly smashing through the guy with the same gear implies that current Thor is at least more formidible than his younger self. And having a sharp axe doesnt mean it's defensive properties are different. It's not Cap's shield. He still has to resist that blow with his own strength and such.
Now what's all this Dork was talking about with Gorr and Hulk passing out from pain?? I'm not super familiar with that Hulk.
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Going by your own logic, Thor started out by shanking Apocalypse from behind.
I'm pretty cool with getting cut into with an axe such that you scream being an issue.
We see parts of Apocalypse flaking off for hitting the axe.Him suddenly smashing through the guy with the same gear implies that current Thor is at least more formidible than his younger self. And having a sharp axe doesnt mean it's defensive properties are different. It's not Cap's shield. He still has to resist that blow with his own strength and such.