The Rectangle: Jean/Scott/Emma/Logan Discussion

[phoenixzero23]

and the fact he has his own corner keeps Storm apart from the X-men.

Then he is better, the X-men do nothing for Storm. They just have her shooting lighting and as a token, she can do more with Black Panther.

[Silver Fang]

Then he is better, the X-men do nothing for Storm. They just have her shooting lighting and as a token, she can do more with Black Panther.

Agreed with this. X-Office has done nothing for Storm in years. And being with Logan sure as heck didn't help. Storm just serves the black girl role and nothing more. Least BP gives her more & better to do. Same with all the other characters that got better characterization & respect in outside books. lol

[phoenixzero23]

Storm just serves the black girl role and nothing more. Least BP gives her more & better to do. Same with all the other characters that got better characterization & respect in outside books. lol

Yeah, that's what I think too.

[Omega Alpha]

Scott a alpha male? and also a nerdy? or he is one or another

He is a guy that is more focused on job, barely smiles, really insecure. He i snot the type that women fall all over herselfs

What I meant is that Cyclops is the leader of the X-men, the guy in charge that command any room he's in, even when big personalities like Namor, Magneto, Wolverine are around. But outside of his job, Scott's really insecure, introvert and a bit nerdy.

Then he is better, the X-men do nothing for Storm. They just have her shooting lighting and as a token, she can do more with Black Panther.

Not everyone agrees with that, is the issue.

[phoenixzero23]

I don't know if it is wise to write this but it keeps being spammed on the Emma thread. I don't want to bash scemma but it is something that keeps being thrown at jott

If you think jott is reggression why scemma isn't?
they broke up too years ago.

[spirit2011]

I don't know if it is wise to write this but it keeps being spammed on the Emma thread. I don't want to bash scemma but it is something that keeps being thrown at jott

If you think jott is reggression why scemma isn't?
they broke up too years ago.

It's called Ship bias. Scott grew over Emma on Bendis run

[Omega Alpha]

I don't know if it is wise to write this but it keeps being spammed on the Emma thread. I don't want to bash scemma but it is something that keeps being thrown at jott

If you think jott is reggression why scemma isn't?
they broke up too years ago.

There was never a real reason for why Scott and Emma weren't together. Bendis is #600 had Scott use an hypocritical and even sexist reason (she slept with Namor when she had the Phoenix; well, Scott killed Xavier and attacked her, and Illyana put people in concentration camps in Limbo, IIRC).

Meanwhile, Scott and Jean had real issues that weren't addressed- part of it due to circumstance (Apocalypse possession and the Phoenix), but also because Scott grew bored and felt being with Jean didn't allow him to be himself and grow like he was to. Like someone else pointed out, that conversation with Logan in the HFC bar makes it feel like the only reason Scott would ever go back to Jean was because he misses the good old days when everything was simple.

Mind you, it's possible exes get back together and not be a regression, even when they had very serious issues. But not without addressing that.

Hell, he just saw his brother sacrifice himself a few minutes before, not a single sane person can be thinking of romance in that scenario. If someone you know said "I got back together with my ex 5 minutes after my brother sacrificed himself to save my life", what are the odds you'd give that relationship to work?

[Ulfhammer]

There was never a real reason for why Scott and Emma weren't together. Bendis is #600 had Scott use an hypocritical and even sexist reason (she slept with Namor when she had the Phoenix; well, Scott killed Xavier and attacked her, and Illyana put people in concentration camps in Limbo, IIRC).

Meanwhile, Scott and Jean had real issues that weren't addressed- part of it due to circumstance (Apocalypse possession and the Phoenix), but also because Scott grew bored and felt being with Jean didn't allow him to be himself and grow like he was to. Like someone else pointed out, that conversation with Logan in the HFC bar makes it feel like the only reason Scott would ever go back to Jean was because he misses the good old days when everything was simple.

Mind you, it's possible exes get back together and not be a regression, even when they had very serious issues. But not without addressing that.

Hell, he just saw his brother sacrifice himself a few minutes before, not a single sane person can be thinking of romance in that scenario. If someone you know said "I got back together with my ex 5 minutes after my brother sacrificed himself to save my life", what are the odds you'd give that relationship to work?

Scott losing X-Men he's known for years is like a typical Tuesday at this point. Especially after the last 11 issues of Uncanny. The love of your life coming back? That's like a once, or in Scott's case, twice in a lifetime occurrence. Why are you trying to ruin everyone fun? It's comics. Let those of us who dig it, enjoy the moment while it lasts. Because we all know it won't last long. It might not even last a week depending on what we see next Wednesday.

[ButterRum]

There was never a real reason for why Scott and Emma weren't together. Bendis is #600 had Scott use an hypocritical and even sexist reason (she slept with Namor when she had the Phoenix; well, Scott killed Xavier and attacked her, and Illyana put people in concentration camps in Limbo, IIRC).

Don't forget that Namor murdered a bunch of Africans.

And, of course, the only thing Scott holds a grudge against is Emma having a mind tryst with Namor ... when they all had the Phoenix.

AvX was pure character assassination.

But I guess it's more on Scott's character for faulting Emma and saying he wouldn't touch her with Namor's trident. So it would really be his character that looks bad. Cyclops fans should be pissed.

[spirit2011]

Don't forget that Namor murdered a bunch of Africans.

And, of course, the only thing Scott holds a grudge against is Emma having a mind tryst with Namor ... when they all had the Phoenix.

AvX was pure character assassination.

But I guess it's more on Scott's character for faulting Emma and saying he wouldn't touch her with Namor's trident. So it would really be his character that looks bad. Cyclops fans should be pissed.

He wasn't into her anymore. The Namor thing didn't helped;

[Ulfhammer]

Don't forget that Namor murdered a bunch of Africans.

And, of course, the only thing Scott holds a grudge against is Emma having a mind tryst with Namor ... when they all had the Phoenix.

AvX was pure character assassination.

But I guess it's more on Scott's character for faulting Emma and saying he wouldn't touch her with Namor's trident. So it would really be his character that looks bad. Cyclops fans should be pissed.

Scott fans do not require more reasons to be pissed. Once you reach a saturation point of stupid writing, you don't get more pissed. You slowly stop caring.

Frankly I found Scott's reasons for rejecting Emma to be stupid. He could have given any of a dozen other reasons and it would have made more sense.

[Omega Alpha]

Scott fans do not require more reasons to be pissed. Once you reach a saturation point of stupid writing, you don't get more pissed. You slowly stop caring.

Emma's fans are also reaching that stage. They're not there yet, but almost.

Frankly I found Scott's reasons for rejecting Emma to be stupid. He could have given any of a dozen other reasons and it would have made more sense.

It was double stupid because he was leaving the book, any reasonable writer would just leave it open ended and let the next one decide. But then not only he had Scott giving that pathetic reasoning, he had Teen Jean making out with Hank while Scott makes that speech.

[phoenixzero23]

Scott and Jean kissed because they haven't seen each other for long and they formely were husband and wife and both are coming back from the dead (the dead, thats usually imposible). They also lived a little more as teens again and decided they liked each other at the end then got those memories as adults. I don't get what other reason or explanation that kiss needed.

though Emma and Logan didn't need that.

Despite many of my comments I'm not trying to bash Emma or scemma (i do stand jott), it is just that sometimes is difficult to talk about something with a biased point of view.

[TheDeadSpace]

Scott fans do not require more reasons to be pissed. Once you reach a saturation point of stupid writing, you don't get more pissed. You slowly stop caring.

Frankly I found Scott's reasons for rejecting Emma to be stupid. He could have given any of a dozen other reasons and it would have made more sense.

I feel this sums up my thoughts. I'm more disappointed than mad these days.

[BitParallel]

So Cyclops picked Jean over Emma with no build up? Shiiidddd