As much as I despise Jogan, I can take a guess.
Both Scott and Jean are repressed by the powers, but they differ in subtle and relevant ways.
Scott's repression coupled with his trauma makes him a highly disciplined introvert who is afraid of losing control.
Jean's repression coupled with her desires makes her a highly responsible extrovert who secretly wants to shirk her responsibility.
(Using extrovert here loosely - I'm not actually sure where she falls in that scale)
They're both afraid of losing control, but there is a part of Jean that wants to do so.
Then comes Logan.
Here's a man who isn't repressed, who has embraced his entire self. He's a killer. He's largely fine with that.
For both, Logan represents a type of self-actualization, but not a very good one.
Scott views Logan as the highest type of irresponsibility - losing control, killing people, not really caring.
Scott is repulsed. Jean, seeing the same thing, is attracted.
She views Logan as a type of permission - to let go and be wild and free.
But he also serves as a cautionary tale. In actuality, Logan is a mess; a mess she might be able to fix.
<blergh>
It's trashy and beneath her. But, unfortunately, it's not out of nowhere.
Man, can you imagine how carefull has to be Logan in that relationship?.
He must be in a thinner ice that most husband in the entire world, like:
Jean: Hi dear
Logan: Hi darling , you look great today!!
Jean: I want the divorce
Logan: No, wait darling i didn't mean to....
Last edited by TheCape; 10-16-2018 at 07:02 AM.
True to an extent i suppose, a big part of Logan's characther in the 80s and 90s is the duality of the man/warrior vs beast/weapon, someone that at his core is at war with himself, he crave for peace but is also afraid of losing control like it was showed in the Wolverine mini in the 82, in that scenario that you are describing, i can see maybe a sort of crush, but with both eventually backing up in the idea at realizing the inherent problem of a relationship like that (Better as Friends Tv tropes), hence why both buried in the 90s, Logan has more problems in dealing with it because of his animalistic nature, but left things clear. Of course when she died the second time it became super creepy (or crepier if you want to go there), proably related to the trauma of having his entire memory back and what happened when he was a teenager. Honestly i think that Jean still wants to fix him (for the lack of a better term), but doesn't really want a romantic relationship with him, while Logan may wish that things had been different, but he knows that he isn't good for her in any level and that frankly she migth not be good for him either.
But hey, i migth being bias here
Yea didn’t they reveal that he had a childhood friend that resembled her. Which I found silly but oh well.
As u mentioned previously... what she feels is probably empathy and physical attraction.
P.S; ur memory is sharp ... u remember the comic n the year! I applaud u. What’s ur secret? Got exams in few months n I keep forgetting what I studied.
Rose O'Hare i think was her name, Logan started to remember her around the early 2000s , when Marvel revealed his origin as "James Howlett", after Jean died again and Logan recovering all his memories in House of M, he hit his lowest point and never was capable to get out of it until his death, his obsession with Jean became worst after all that. We probably should add to the list of "How Marvel characther assasinated Wolverine" in the last decade or so.
Lol, i just check comic vine or the wiki before writing.
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I don't think I have other examples besides the 14 years dead
I think I can have bothAnd your dislike of Scott matters because your arguments stop being about Jean's betterment and instead about Scott's detriment.
Marvel just used how it should be used, Morrison set up phoenix without Jean.That's where Marvel ultimately chose to take those concepts, but that's also on them.
Do you have a statement from Morrison about his dislike or hatred towards Jean?
Morrison said Jean was like his ex and Emma was more his actual GF.
Jean would never let Cyclops become rightclops and commit the mistakes he did. His narrative wasn't dependent on her dead, but benefited from it... Yeah? That doesn't disprove my point. Sharing the spotlight wouldn't have changed his character narrative - so again, his character narrative was not dependent on her death.
that turned out really great for Jean. Really great seeing your husband kissing another woman on your grave.
Last edited by spirit2011; 10-16-2018 at 07:58 AM.
Well we know that Morrison wasn't writing an adult Scott, unlike any previous writer. That's why i always find his attitude in that period hard to swallow.that turned out really great for Jean. Really great seeing your husband kissing another woman on your grave.