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    Quote Originally Posted by Koriand'r View Post
    I think she's connected because she's one of Diana's doctors (Dr. Cale, Dr. Poison, Dr. Psycho, Dr. Zuel) that's a welcome but lesser known Wonder Woman theme that thankfully has nothing to do with mythology.
    You forgot DR. Cyber (arguably the most powerful of the docters). I don’t know I something about her visual lends itself more to mythic interpretation then a sci-fi one. Wonder Woman tends to have two types of villains. Villains that represent the world she left (gods,sorcerers and mythic beasts) and the villains that represent the world she traveled to ( mad scientists, evil business people, politicians and evil organizations). Just feel Giganta fits better in the former rather then the latter.

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    What about Byrna Brilyant or was she even a doctor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmiMizuno View Post
    What about Byrna Brilyant or was she even a doctor?
    Byrna was a down on her luck school teacher who was good at robotics. As I recall her backstory had her father inventing a solution to global warming that nobody ever used so she used it for robbing whole towns

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    In most modern retellings she is a scientist. So school teacher or sciencist? In rebirth she was called by Cale. So my best bet is she should be at first a low level villain but grows to one of the top

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    I think she should be serious and very powerful character with a tragic backstory. She should get Attack on Titan or Godzilla type treatment instead of being treated as a henchman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geraldofrivia View Post
    I think she should be serious and very powerful character with a tragic backstory. She should get Attack on Titan or Godzilla type treatment instead of being treated as a henchman.
    The trick would be tweaking her motives to indicate such a thing. As it is, Giganta is ranked among the physically strongest villains in DC but has the motivational train of thought of either "Im going to make them pay!" or "Im gonna be rich!" Which doesn't lend itself to center stage when your villains ultimate goal seems to be getting back at people and reveling in riches. The plain fact is that the big league villains tend to have rather over the top goals and hers are fairly reasonable by comparison

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    Not all majority villains need a tragic backstory to be evil. Also, what should her motives be? She is one of the many mad scientists in Wonder Woman and in Dc. She can be powerful yes but what other powers other than growing tall should she have?

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    Uh, what other powers would she need? Growing tall + strength and invulnerability are quite alot already. Not everyone needs to have ten different powers

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmiMizuno View Post
    Not all majority villains need a tragic backstory to be evil. Also, what should her motives be? She is one of the many mad scientists in Wonder Woman and in Dc. She can be powerful yes but what other powers other than growing tall should she have?
    Well she should not get easily defeated and she could be taller, stronger, invulnerable and powerful .
    The Tragic backstory should be reason why she is evil and give some sort of sympathy from readers instead of I am just evil.
    Look at Thanos Killmonger, Zod or Loki. They were all well received because the audience understood their evil motives had it had everything to do with Society in which they were brought up in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geraldofrivia View Post
    Well she should not get easily defeated and she could be taller, stronger, invulnerable and powerful .
    The Tragic backstory should be reason why she is evil and give some sort of sympathy from readers instead of I am just evil.
    Look at Thanos Killmonger, Zod or Loki. They were all well received because the audience understood their evil motives had it had everything to do with Society in which they were brought up in.
    What is Loki's tragic backstory again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carabas View Post
    What is Loki's tragic backstory again?
    He grew up in the shadow of his older, adoptive brother due to being a Frost Giant and lacking Thor's strength and combat skills. He was treated as a social pariah for relying on magic and even in his home realm was viewed with shame due to being small for a Frost Giant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carabas View Post
    What is Loki's tragic backstory again?
    Him being adopted and being Frost Giant and living in his brother's shadow. He believed Odin discriminates against him because he was adopted and if Thor is dead he would become Odin's only son and his successor.

    The truth was both Loki and Hela was bad because of Odin. Odin kept the Loki's heritage a secret and constantly encouraged competition between Loki and Thor by saying only the better of them can become King of Asgard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geraldofrivia View Post
    Him being adopted and being Frost Giant and living in his brother's shadow. He believes Odin discriminates against him because he was adopted and if Thor is dead he would become Odin's only son and his successor.
    He didn't even know he was adopted, and it wasn't him that got stripped of his powers and banished to Earth.

    He's royalty. The second son having less privilege as the crown prince is part of that deal.

    I mean, sure, he believes Odin discriminates against him, but Odin didn't actually do that. And knowing he's a Frost Giant is not actually part of his "tragic origin" because he only found out as an adult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carabas View Post
    He didn't even know he was adopted, and it wasn't him that got stripped of his powers and banished to Earth.

    He's royalty. The second son having less privilege as the crown prince is part of that deal.

    I mean, sure, he believes Odin discriminates against him, but Odin didn't actually do that. And knowing he's a Frost Giant is not actually part of his "tragic origin" because he only found out as an adult.
    It wasn't just him being the second son. He was actively discriminated against and bullied for not being as strong skilled in fighting as as Thor. Frost Giants were treated as the Asgardian equivalent of the boogeyman and Odin himself told stories painting them all as monsters. Also, tragic origin isn't just limited to what happens to a character in childhood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Z View Post
    It wasn't just him being the second son. He was actively discriminated against and bullied for not being as strong skilled in fighting as as Thor. Frost Giants were treated as the Asgardian equivalent of the boogeyman and Odin himself told stories painting them all as monsters. Also, tragic origin isn't just limited to what happens to a character in childhood.
    Exactly, He is most beloved Marvel character even though he was a villain.

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