Xavier Blackmails The O5

[gambitxremy]

When Gathering the original x-men Xavier pretty much blackmails or manipulate them all into joining his dream the x-men

Scott was breaking the law with his foster father jack o diamonds
told scott he can go to jail or come with him


helps bobby out of jail and mind wipes his parents into joining school


mind wipes hank from everyone he ever knows with out asking to get him to join the x-men

[gambitxremy]

angel already a hero gets in trouble and xavier gets him out of a bind to get him to join


teaches jean from a young age before all the rest of the x-men and not completely honest to her or her parents about the x-men and puts mental blocks in her mind



Xavier does the worst to the human torch and pretty much forces johnny into saving and joining the team against the juggernaut for one battle then mind wipes him

[Darth Phoenix]

And after them Mimic pretty much demanded to join.

[gambitxremy]

Xavier mind wiped mimic to

[dragonmp93]

So its two brainwashings, and two mind wipes and one blackmail, huh ?. And people still wonders why the X-men is such group of screw ups.

[Montressor]

I never really realized how much of an ass Xavier was. He's almost Niles Caulder-level manipulative, except Caulder actually murdered former teammates and I can't recall Xavier ever actually killing a teammate outright (although with the tons of convoluted history the franchise has I wouldn't doubt it happened in some obscure story from long ago).

[ExodusCloak]

Marvel Comics Presents elaborates on the Beast mindwipe. Xavier was really horrible even after Hank protests the mind-wipe.

[Narasinha]

What were you expecting ? With Cyclops method of recruitment, nothing less than mind-wipe would have worked:

[Rivka]

Nice thread! Puts to rest all those arguments (which we see a few times each month, it seems) that someone is tired of Marvel making Xavier "dark" and they want to go back to a time when Xavier was a saint. Except--as the op shows--Xavier was always arrogant, passive-aggressive, manipulative, and dishonest; i.e., "dark." There were some attempts to portray him as a saint in the 1990s, but the writing was so heavy-handed that it back-fired. (Example, in "Fatal Attractions" when the X-Men literally pledge their allegiance and chant Xavier's dream ritualistically, like they worship him, and it doesn't make Charlie look like a saint to the astute reader, it makes the X-Men look like a cult being controlled by a narcissistic puppet-master.)

[Narasinha]

After "first contact" scenario too :

[Rivka]

What were you expecting ? With Cyclops method of recruitment, nothing less than mind-wipe would have worked:

Except Scott was 16 years old and a troubled young man, while Xavier was in his 30s (or thereabouts) with several degrees, including an M.D. with specialty in Psychiatry and a Ph.D. in Psychology. Moreover, we don't even know if Cyclops was being controlled by Xavier in the above examples; Charlie rode around in his mind nearly always back in the early days of the 05.

Edited to add: In your last example, Narasinha, Scott is trying to rescue Lilandra. And who asked him to do that?

[anthony_lynch15]

LOL, good thread.
Xavier's great, but he's always been a bit of a d!ck.
Haven't seen a few of these panels/pages before though, cheers gambitxremy.

[Narasinha]

Except Scott was 16 years old and a troubled young man, while Xavier was in his 30s (or thereabouts) with several degrees, including an M.D. with specialty in Psychiatry and a Ph.D. in Psychology. Moreover, we don't even know if Cyclops was being controlled by Xavier in the above examples; Charlie rode around in his mind nearly always back in the early days of the 05.

Edited to add: In your last example, Narasinha, Scott is trying to rescue Lilandra. And who asked him to do that?

Don't panic, I am not bashing Scott. I just find hilarious how they were writing comics at that time
Eh, at least he didn't handled Matthew in the same way lol.

[Narasinha]

You are all forgetting that Xavier decided to change his methods and behave in UXM1 #151

[anthony_lynch15]

You are all forgetting that Xavier decided to change his methods and behave in UXM1 #151

LOL, that first panel looks like Piotr & Ororo were caught sneaking around.