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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter West View Post
    I instantly thought of the character Powerhouse from The Man Called Nova. Those characters wound up in a memorable Fantastic Four storyline, with Galactus battling the Sphinx.
    Wow that takes you back a ways. IIRC it was a way to showcase Nova after his original solo ended. Perhaps the first time Xandar was destroyed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abe View Post
    I had some good time... but the long vacations come with the job you know and they were quite casual, at home, with nothing exotic. I just guess that I'm not a poster in the summer ...
    If I were in France in summer I won't be posting much either!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    I still haven't read issue #1 yet. Should have it this weekend.
    But this preview for #2 doesn't give me much hope for this series.
    Guess it's back to the back issues for me.
    that was my thought. I am not sure what that is, but it doesn't talk and walk like the FF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crimz View Post
    For me, what's really great about the kids being this much older is that Sue no longer has to be anchored to the book. She can now guest appear in anything and even have a solo/mini book without the "She can't because she has to look after the kids" excuse. She can have her own adventures if she wants.
    There was never the case where Susan Storm was held back from a story because of the kids. The reason she doesn't go off with the Avengers is because she is part of the Fantastic Four, and loves her family and she likes it like that, like most normal people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrbrklyn View Post
    There was never the case where Susan Storm was held back from a story because of the kids. The reason she doesn't go off with the Avengers is because she is part of the Fantastic Four, and loves her family and she likes it like that, like most normal people.
    The other three members cameo in other books often and have solo adventures while Sue does not. So do they not love their family?

    I'm not saying that she should dump the FF and join another team, but that she should have bigger presence in the MU. No longer tied at the hip to Reed and the kids.

    The excuses that always comes up is that she has to look after the kids or that her job is to be the Mom. Now that the kids are much more independent that excuse no longer works. She can guest appear in anything and have a solo adventure with that issue not coming up. The kids growing up is great for Sue as a character.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crimz View Post
    The other three members cameo in other books often and have solo adventures while Sue does not. So do they not love their family?

    I'm not saying that she should dump the FF and join another team, but that she should have bigger presence in the MU. No longer tied at the hip to Reed and the kids.

    The excuses that always comes up is that she has to look after the kids or that her job is to be the Mom. Now that the kids are much more independent that excuse no longer works. She can guest appear in anything and have a solo adventure with that issue not coming up. The kids growing up is great for Sue as a character.
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    Talking about what’s canon? Tacos? Hmm...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravin' Ray View Post
    I was amused by the meta when Sue narrated that the Sue/Namor shipping is just fanfic.
    probably not meta at all. Considering how many tabloids there are in the supermarket aisles gossiping about which celebreties are sleeping with which... I imagine there is a TON of stuff like that for Sue and Namor too. Not even counting the internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phantom1592 View Post
    probably not meta at all.
    Could be both too. Won't be surprised to learn Slott's been eavesdropping on one particularly heated debate about whether Sue did more than lock lips with Namor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravin' Ray View Post
    Could be both too. Won't be surprised to learn Slott's been eavesdropping on one particularly heated debate about whether Sue did more than lock lips with Namor.
    I'd prefer to leave details on Sue/Namor in the dark. Stories that were written in the sixites and early seventies had a certain expectation of heroes' morals and what they did or didn't do. As time goes on, we need to assume the FF's adventures have all taken part in the past 15 years or so, and in retrospect, don't need to fit the morality of a Kennedy era book.

    Right now, though, we know there was some attraction between Sue and Namor. Trying to place it all as "fanfic" kind of makes the fanfic questionable as which villain would Sue be paired with if she and Namor hadn't had any sort of feelings? There was something; it's over now. I don't think anymore needs to happen regarding it except a few comments from Namor to Sue which Sue's OK with TO A LIMIT.

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    I just want to thank Dan Slott for nipping that Namor crap in the bud. Really and truly, thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrbrklyn View Post
    There was never the case where Susan Storm was held back from a story because of the kids. The reason she doesn't go off with the Avengers is because she is part of the Fantastic Four, and loves her family and she likes it like that, like most normal people.
    She was actually an Avenger in the 90s, but Reed was with her (and they still wore F4 uniforms).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crimz View Post
    The other three members cameo in other books often and have solo adventures while Sue does not.

    You are conjouring this up and it is not even true. Any of the Marvel characters have been available for any storyline and title at will since the very beginning, and they and Susan Storm do pop up all over the Marvel universe. The only FF member that has been really treated different has been the Thing with Marvel Two and One. Kids love the Thing. And Johny has done some solo work with Spider-man. There has never been any storyline or plot that has restricted the character of Susan Storm because of her children. In fact, she has a great house keeper who watches the kids, who herself became a central character.

    It would be great if that was the case, and Susan semi-retired because of her motherhood. It would show that motherhood, and raising a family was as important has running off the Negative Zone and to waste time on a career (or concieving child?), but alas, it is not true. She has always selfishly put her career first since the day she got onto the rocket with Reed and Ben and Johnny. And then she flirts with Namor!

    She nearly left Reed somewhere around FF140+ and toyed with Namor, and asked to move to Connecticut and all the other interesting and fascinating things that complex family life does to women and the men that love them, but never ever has it been a crutch for any inactivity, and in fact, she has never been inactive. She has been a linchpin Marvel character from the time of FF#1
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    Woohoo, they're back!!!
    "The grass withers, the flower fades, but the word of God stands forever"--Isaiah 40:8

    “A hero can be anyone, even a man doing something as simple and reassuring as putting a coat around a little boy’s shoulder to let him know that the world hadn't ended.”--Batman

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowcat View Post
    This, this is amazing.
    More like "Fantastic"
    "The grass withers, the flower fades, but the word of God stands forever"--Isaiah 40:8

    “A hero can be anyone, even a man doing something as simple and reassuring as putting a coat around a little boy’s shoulder to let him know that the world hadn't ended.”--Batman

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