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    Quote Originally Posted by Carabas View Post
    Frollo in Hunchback Of The Notre Dame? Not even disguised at all.
    In the book Frollo was a bishop while in the movie he is a judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JKtheMac View Post
    I can’t quite imagine a mainstream Disney movie using a thinly disguised Catholic Church reference as their villains.
    After all those crappy Pure Flix movies, we need a film with evil space catholics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JKtheMac View Post
    I can’t quite imagine a mainstream Disney movie using a thinly disguised Catholic Church reference as their villains.
    They will work something out if they choose to use the UCoT.

    We already saw a genocidal, ethnic-cleansing Ronan. Child-trafficking is a part of Star-Lord's origin, plus the filicide of Quill's half siblings by Ego. I can even throw in the clear case of child abuse of Nebula by Thanos.

    Disney has already used the Guardian films to touch on some serious subject matters.

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    Ehh,MCU had already complex Marvel characters in the movies done well.As Odin,Vision,Doctor Strange and Thanos.
    Thus i am not worried about the MCU version of Adam Warlock.I think that as other complex characters,Adam Warlock will be great in the movies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whiteshark View Post
    Ehh,MCU had already complex Marvel characters in the movies done well.As Odin,Vision,Doctor Strange and Thanos.
    Thus i am not worried about the MCU version of Adam Warlock.I think that as other complex characters,Adam Warlock will be great in the movies.
    MCU Odin was whack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainMar-Vell92 of the Kree View Post
    MCU Odin was whack.
    I can´t think of a better actor to play Odin that Anthony Hopkins,and i think he have been doing a great work at that role.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Shaw View Post
    They will work something out if they choose to use the UCoT.

    We already saw a genocidal, ethnic-cleansing Ronan. Child-trafficking is a part of Star-Lord's origin, plus the filicide of Quill's half siblings by Ego. I can even throw in the clear case of child abuse of Nebula by Thanos.

    Disney has already used the Guardian films to touch on some serious subject matters.

    Maybe but the name is too close to the actual name of the church so they are just not going to use it. Universal and catholic are direct similes. Expect a major uproar if a dark evil figure that entirely dominates an empire of planets effectively calls his evil empire ‘The Catholic Church’. The comics got away with it because it flew way under the radar.


    Quote Originally Posted by Carabas View Post
    Frollo in Hunchback Of The Notre Dame? Not even disguised at all.
    An individual villain does not represent an entire institution. All the characters, good or bad were catholic.

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainMar-Vell92 of the Kree View Post
    After all those crappy Pure Flix movies, we need a film with evil space catholics.
    I wouldn’t for one minute suggest that the Catholic Church should be above parody or criticism. But there is a difference between making movies that question things and plotting a story that uses the entire church as a parody. It’s just not happening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainMar-Vell92 of the Kree View Post
    Please read this and you'll know that Warlock is more than just Gauntlet.
    I said in the grand scheme he is not important which means Marvel can and will move on and tell stories without him with little trouble. You are here worrying about will they do the character justice instead of wondering will he ever show up. The story where they needed him the most to work just they did it without him. They did a good Infinity Gauntlet story without Silver Surfer,Adam Warlock and Death which if you told me before I didn't think it would be possible to do that. Yeah he is more than infinity gauntlet storyline but if they can take him out of that they can take him out of anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whiteshark View Post
    I can´t think of a better actor to play Odin that Anthony Hopkins,and i think he have been doing a great work at that role.
    He was supposed to be the strongest of the nine realms and he did jackshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killerbee911 View Post
    I said in the grand scheme he is not important which means Marvel can and will move on and tell stories without him with little trouble. You are here worrying about will they do the character justice instead of wondering will he ever show up. The story where they needed him the most to work just they did it without him. They did a good Infinity Gauntlet story without Silver Surfer,Adam Warlock and Death which if you told me before I didn't think it would be possible to do that. Yeah he is more than infinity gauntlet storyline but if they can take him out of that they can take him out of anything else.
    Infinity War is not really a Infinity Gauntlet movie, but a pastiche of various stories. Also MCU Thanos has more in common with Ra's al Ghul than Starlin Thanos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainMar-Vell92 of the Kree View Post
    Also MCU Thanos has more in common with Ra's al Ghul than Starlin Thanos.
    you have successfully identified the element that makes the film a lot better than the original comic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carabas View Post
    you have successfully identified the element that makes the film a lot better than the original comic.
    Agreed. Cosmic Ra's Al Ghul is much more interesting than stalker-with-a-crush-guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainMar-Vell92 of the Kree View Post
    In the book Frollo was a bishop while in the movie he is a judge.
    True, and apparently they changed it to avoid giving offence as well. That said, movie Frollo is astoundingly evil, more so than book Frollo (who of course commits many heinous acts all the same).

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    Given the amount of Christ tropes WB sneaked into Man of Steel/Batman v Superman without anything more than eyebrows being raised, I'm not sure Disney would have all that much to fear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelC View Post
    Agreed. Cosmic Ra's Al Ghul is much more interesting than stalker-with-a-crush-guy.
    Thanos's character evolved dramatically under Starlin. The guy that was doing it "for love" was The Final Threat Thanos. After that, he became a lot closer to movie Thanos. In the Rebirth of Thanos Silver Surfer issues, Norrin Radd describes him as Professorial. He also states the exact same motivation that he has in the movie. The only difference is he's doing it as a service to Death as opposed to something he just believes in due to personal experience. Once he places himself as more powerful than Death, his motivation of loving her seems to go away and, certainly, after the story, that motivation is gone entirely for the rest of the trilogy.

    I'm not saying there's no difference between the two, but people overstate the difference. To me, the movie got the core of the character very much right rather than inventing their own thing.
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