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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Taylor View Post
    Ok three things:

    1) Not doing Batman's origin in '89 was brilliant.
    2) Who cares about Bruce Wayne's "story arc"? Its a Batman movie.
    3) Burton, Nicholson and Keaton justified the means

    Batman '89 is a great movie that deserves all the respect and accolades it routinely gets from longtime fans. The author of the video is just an idiot trying to get views. But kudos, I guess, because I watched most of his video.
    1) He at no point in the video complains about it not being an Origin for the character of Batman, His issue is the lack of development for Batman or the Joker
    2) You realized you just contradicted yourself right? Isn't the movie called Batman not Joker?.
    3) What does that even mean and how does that disprove any of the points brought up in that video?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spencermalley935 View Post
    Bruce doesn't actually like being Batman, He doesn't derive any joy or satisfaction from it. He's Batman because he feels obligated to be as such and to honor the memory of his parents by fighting for a better world, one that won't need a Batman anymore. With that in mind, I don't see what the big deal is in having him desire a life beyond fighting crime. He obviously won't ever achieve it because of the nature of comics as a medium but that doesn't necessarily have to bode true for every other form of media.




    I'm not trying to change your opinion but I wanna say one more word on the subject. The 89 movie had Batman flat out state he was going to kill the Joker and he pretty much did, That to me goes against the character more than anything in The Dark Knight.
    Batman killed in 39 and it felt like Burton was going for the early Batman of 39.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spencermalley935 View Post
    1) He at no point in the video complains about it not being an Origin for the character of Batman, His issue is the lack of development for Batman or the Joker
    2) You realized you just contradicted yourself right? Isn't the movie called Batman not Joker?.
    3) What does that even mean and how does that disprove any of the points brought up in that video?
    He bemoaned that there was no character development, yes, and claimed that the origin story would have helped. I disagree with him, pretty vehemently.

    You suggest a contradiction as if I am implying Batman should have character development in a Batman movie. I disagree with that notion, pretty vehemently. Action movies are ok in and of themselves.

    The movie had great acting, and it made up for the movie's few irrelevant flaws. Thats what I am saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Taylor View Post
    He bemoaned that there was no character development, yes, and claimed that the origin story would have helped. I disagree with him, pretty vehemently.

    You suggest a contradiction as if I am implying Batman should have character development in a Batman movie. I disagree with that notion, pretty vehemently. Action movies are ok in and of themselves.

    The movie had great acting, and it made up for the movie's few irrelevant flaws. Thats what I am saying.
    Of course an origin story would've helped, it helped considerably in Batman Begins but even so, Batman not having an origin in the 89 movie isn't necesarrily a problem but not giving him any kind of character development is.

    If Batman's name is in the title, That kinda suggests he's gonna be front and center of the movie.

    Nicholson and Keaton were good but most everyone else didn't leave any kind of impression at all (especially Gordon)

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