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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenixx9 View Post


    Or did Magma use her powers to move the ground beneath her, thereby granting "flight"?
    Isn't that called "falling?" Lol

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    If you look at the old run, Jean would make dotted lined shapes of tk to make things move, and she couldn't really fly completely, only hover a bit or jump. There's an issue towards the end of the old run, with the Neal Adams art, where their plane gets destroyed and they are all falling and she doesn't just levitate everyone to safety. That said, tk has evolved since then in its applications to the point where tks freely fly and do other stuff without having an 'anchor'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevlon View Post
    Isn't that called "falling?" Lol
    No, it is what the Invisible Woman used and no one called it falling. Lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jalsrix View Post
    Banshee flying is due to the air pressure waves caused by his powerful voice. An aeroplane flies due to air pressure made by the engines.

    See this video below.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Io-HXZTepH4
    My explanation still stands. This is how an airplane works. In my explanation, Banshee's costume gave him the curvature of the "wings" for collision of air molecules, which his scream manages to displace. Airplanes fly because the pressure from beneath is more than the gravity from above, thus this creates resistance the "flyer" and the ground, meaning they move over this colliding air molecules and don't fall. This changes only when a variable changes, example: Banshee stops screaming or closes his arms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yogaflame View Post
    If you look at the old run, Jean would make dotted lined shapes of tk to make things move, and she couldn't really fly completely, only hover a bit or jump. There's an issue towards the end of the old run, with the Neal Adams art, where their plane gets destroyed and they are all falling and she doesn't just levitate everyone to safety. That said, tk has evolved since then in its applications to the point where tks freely fly and do other stuff without having an 'anchor'.
    Same thing happened to Vance Astrovik. He started off with dotted lines as a weak tk user, then upgraded to a coloured aura and all of a sudden he could fly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yogaflame View Post
    If you look at the old run, Jean would make dotted lined shapes of tk to make things move, and she couldn't really fly completely, only hover a bit or jump. There's an issue towards the end of the old run, with the Neal Adams art, where their plane gets destroyed and they are all falling and she doesn't just levitate everyone to safety. That said, tk has evolved since then in its applications to the point where tks freely fly and do other stuff without having an 'anchor'.
    LOL. Tk's anchor is just the brain.

    The brain energy extends from the brain , just like Cyclops energy extends from his eyes.

    So technically, she can't fly.

    She can levitate up on the ground just like Kitty walking on air but flying is definitely no-no.

    Flying and levitating are two different powers. Jean was portrayed correctly in the past as levitating by the dotted energy pushing on the ground.

    I think past writers were confused seeing Jean fly as Dark Phoenix but that's not really Jean. These writers failed Physics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevlon View Post
    All (powerful) telekinetics in comics can fly.
    If TK can fly, why didn't Psylocke fly?

    Using the same principle, Cyclops and Havok should be able to fly using their optic blasts on the ground.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jalsrix View Post
    If TK can fly, why didn't Psylocke fly?

    Using the same principle, Cyclops and Havok should be able to fly using their optic blasts on the ground.
    She wasn't good at it.

    I remember seeing her fly in one issue and some one commented how terrible at it she was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jalsrix View Post
    I think past writers were confused seeing Jean fly as Dark Phoenix but that's not really Jean. These writers failed Physics.
    I don't think a different interpretation of a fictional concept like telekinesis means that they don't understand physics. A lot of writers think of TK similarly to energy constructs that defy gravity that are propelled through the power of the mind, like a Green Lantern, but not necessarily an energy emanating from the brain that anchors them together.

    And at this point it's a commonly accepted interpretation of that power that isn't going away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jalsrix View Post
    If TK can fly, why didn't Psylocke fly?

    Using the same principle, Cyclops and Havok should be able to fly using their optic blasts on the ground.
    What the heck are you talking about? Psylocke could fly







    Quote Originally Posted by jalsrix View Post
    LOL. Tk's anchor is just the brain.

    The brain energy extends from the brain , just like Cyclops energy extends from his eyes.

    So technically, she can't fly.

    She can levitate up on the ground just like Kitty walking on air but flying is definitely no-no.

    Flying and levitating are two different powers. Jean was portrayed correctly in the past as levitating by the dotted energy pushing on the ground.

    I think past writers were confused seeing Jean fly as Dark Phoenix but that's not really Jean. These writers failed Physics.
    No Jean can fly. Originally she could only elevate herself but she's grown far more skilled since then. When X-Factor began, it was noted that she loss her TP, but gained a power boost to her TK to the point that she was able to fly effortlessly with a thought. Its now second nature to her
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