I still very much don't think that Ororo was aware at all about any of this.
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I still very much don't think that Ororo was aware at all about any of this.
"We come into this world alone and we leave the same way. The time we spent in between - time spent alive, sharing, learning together... is all that makes life worth living." - Jean Grey
I like when characters have challenges as well, I just don't think Cassandra Nova can pose much of a threat to Ororo, to be honest. Storm has TONS of development over the years developing her mental defenses so that no telepath of any strength can overcome her without PIS. I think it was you who tried to argue that Storm could not hurt Cassie Nova because she doesn't have a physical body. This is not true. IIRC, she can still open doors and interact with the physical world in this form. On top of that, both Storm and Magneto have shown the ability to scramble or jam psionic energy with their powers. Heck, Xavier explains to Jean that when they enter into somebody else's consciousness, they are merely electrical impulses:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_kVogPskwE...c42/RCO005.jpg
We have also seen Storm hurt Xavier's astral form without even trying.
Given all of these facts, I think it would be safe to say that not only can Storm put the hurt on Nova's mental energy form when she's running around the streets, she could probably pull a Stardust move on Nova's energy form and destroy her. Stardust is a Herald of Galactus composed of cosmic energy. Storm was able to rip electrons from her body and send them back with enough force to blow her up. There is no reason to think she couldn't do the same to Nova if the two of them fought when Nova is in a state where she doesn't have a physical body.
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Honestly I'm done with this conversation. I don't like going in circles and you're literally just spouting the same nonsense over and over again. Cassandra is a psychic construct which means she can interact with the physical world. Everything else... Go read Uncanny X-Force. I'm not arguing with you. Just go read it.
"We come into this world alone and we leave the same way. The time we spent in between - time spent alive, sharing, learning together... is all that makes life worth living." - Jean Grey
She is a psychic construct, but Storm controls energies that can scramble psychic energy. Got it?
Nova may not have been affected by Storm's blizzard in that story, but she should be able to hurt Nova in her psychic construct form with her electrical manipulations and projections. No story will change my mind on that as anything to the contrary is simply devaluing aspects of how Storm's powers work.
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I'm sure that she tried and that it didn't work, since I mean Storm's default is lightning.
Storm can't beat Cassandra. You've tried to prove me wrong. You have failed. This conversation is over. We're moving on now.
Let's all talk about the new costume. I am LIVING for the collar.
"We come into this world alone and we leave the same way. The time we spent in between - time spent alive, sharing, learning together... is all that makes life worth living." - Jean Grey
The issue did not show Storm using electricity against Nova, IIRC, so you need to stop making that up right now. Also, not every writer gives Storm her due when she fights psis. The fact of the matter is Storm has been shown to be able to hurt astral forms (she hurt Xavier's) with her electrical powers as well as scramble incoming psychic attacks effectively frying telepaths out of her mind. She has the ability to disrupt psychic energy, so a being composed of physical psychic energy should be vulnerable to certain aspects of her powers IF she is written with her due against psychic foes.
We may just have to agree to disagree.
Scratch that. I see you must have been talking about UXM 159. It was not the same thing. Even when she was turned into a vampire, she still knew who she was. She still knew who the X-men were as she was able to talk to them. She was still Storm. She was a mindless puppet here. She had no autonomy and had no clue who she was fighting or even a sense of self. She was running on autopilot, which was not the case when Dracula got a hold of her. The sentinites are tech based, not mental. Her body was taken over by machines, which had a different effect on her, than had someone straight up going for her mind
Okay, but seriously. This costume. The regal collar, the dipping neckline, the ponytail invoking but not remaking the mohawk, what appears to be a full cape as opposed to one attached to her wrists... yesssss. This is such a good look, maybe even my favorite.
"We come into this world alone and we leave the same way. The time we spent in between - time spent alive, sharing, learning together... is all that makes life worth living." - Jean Grey
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GA:"Hold her!"
F:"Does it look like I'm not trying!?"
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where does it say that since she is unconscious her will power becomes ineffective? her being unconscious or not was irrelevant with Dracula as she didnt fight off his control over her until at least a day or two later. she had given in to his control, she had become undead. her mind, body, and soul were Dracula's to command. in the case of these sentinites they only affected her brain. no amount of telepathy would do away such control, which wasnt the case with red as jean was able to remove her desire/impression to protect wakanda. by all means this control over her in red was far less invasive than dracula's control yet she was able to overcome one and not the other. now one could argue given time she could have broken free but it would have been nice to see her resist or attempt to gain control.
what limits does she have on a field that can block hits from the hulk and break through a celestial shield and even block jeans telekinesis?? do u have issue with her shield being able to these things considering she initially could not?
you are taking about probability that has no basis in what has actually occurred in canon. gods powers are based upon how many people believe in the god. so there is a condition that limits her. additionally ororo herself doesnt care about being a god, mutant whatever. she is always going to work to not unnecessarily disrupt the natural order of things, which talks to her self imposed limits. again no one is saying she should be this unstoppable force but as a goddess she should be out of the category of some categories including all the current cast of xmen and even she. if thor can be a successful hero in marvel why cant storm experience similar treatment?
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yaass I'm here for it.
me too I need a closer look at storms outfit.
again it doesnt matter if she knew who she was or not once anyone is beaten by Dracula you are his slave and you are driven by a thirst for blood. also as I mentioned his power controlled not only your mind but also you body and soul. it also made you undead. Dracula even acknowledges that what ororo did he never experienced in anyone. so I agree they are different but what these sentinites are nowhere near equivalent to what she had to overcome with Dracula. Dracula control over her is not mental either a telepath couldn't correct his hold as jubs would have been converted back to just a mutant way before now. it took the power of a Phoenix shard to restore her and she wasnt even beaten by Dracula himself. all it took to restore storm was the knowledge of a person who understood the brain, someone who could interact with the sentinites, and a tk. they arent comparable. so all in all I think you guys are lowballing storm here and abilities.
I'm here for this costume.
lol why ru so silly lol
ALL HAIL THE HADARI YAO, THE OMEGA'S OMEGA, BEYOND OMEGA, THE VOICE OF SOL!!!! NOW AGAIN THE ONE TRUE AND ONLY GODDESS OF THE X-MEN AS CLAREMONT INTENDED!!!!!
Excuse the newbie posting and my first but I must ask a question. I just started reading X-Treme X-men on Marvel unlimited and I have a question. Storm and Gambit have an affair while Rogue is depowered? I’m not sure I missed a cross over issue or that actually happened. On a side note I love the new costume and Jean and Ro’ back together.
ALL HAIL THE HADARI YAO, THE OMEGA'S OMEGA, BEYOND OMEGA, THE VOICE OF SOL!!!! NOW AGAIN THE ONE TRUE AND ONLY GODDESS OF THE X-MEN AS CLAREMONT INTENDED!!!!!