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Last edited by RLAAMJR.; 07-19-2015 at 09:10 AM.
Monica Rambeau is the queen of my heart and life. Bow down to her then give her all your money.
Nostagia leads to stagnation and over glorifying the past. The past sucked, the present sucks, and the future will suck. Take off the rose colored glasses and don't let that jerk nostalgia trick you into thinking life was better than it really was. If 20 years from now I'm of those people that say music, tv, videogames etc. was better back in my day please hit me in the knee caps with a bat.
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If you don't want RAALMJR creating it, then get off your asses and create it. America is no longer a British colony. EVERYONE fought the English back decades ago. Want something? In this country, you roll up your sleeves and go for it.
Last edited by DDD; 07-19-2015 at 10:08 AM.
To everyone: Please do not use the term "Afrikaner" - it's an offensive term. Please refer to the cultural group as Afrikaans speaking or Afrikaans speaker. Not all Afrikaans speaking South Afrikaans are white - a large part of the community are black, or mixed race.
Incorrect...white South Africans descended from many European countries...we're a mixed of Dutch (largest), French, Belgium, German, Scottish, Irish settlers and Portuguese and British colonists.
(Also, note the difference between settlers and colonists...it's complicated, since SA doesn't work like other African countries, but it's more accurate to a certain extent.)
Last edited by Beezzi; 07-19-2015 at 12:15 PM.
Monica Rambeau is the queen of my heart and life. Bow down to her then give her all your money.
Nostagia leads to stagnation and over glorifying the past. The past sucked, the present sucks, and the future will suck. Take off the rose colored glasses and don't let that jerk nostalgia trick you into thinking life was better than it really was. If 20 years from now I'm of those people that say music, tv, videogames etc. was better back in my day please hit me in the knee caps with a bat.
Technically, those other peoples you mentioned came well after the Dutch invaded the continent of Africa... Besides, you neglected to include Greece, and Lithuania.
Afrikaner:
noun, Af·ri·ka·ner often attributive \ˌa-fri-ˈkä-nər\
: a person born, raised, or living in South Africa whose first language is Afrikaans and whose ancestors were Dutch.
Afrikaans:
[af-ri-kahns, -kahnz]
noun
Also called the Taal. an official language of South Africa, developed out of the speech of 17th-century settlers from Holland and still very like Dutch.
Settler:
ˈsed(ə)lər,ˈsetlər/
noun
a person who settles in an area, typically one with no or few previous inhabitants.
synonyms: colonist, colonizer, frontiersman, frontierswoman, pioneer, bushwhacker, etc...
In your own words (please) simplify it and tell us how South Africa works differently from other African countries.(Also, note the difference between settlers and colonists...it's complicated, since SA doesn't work like other African countries, but it's more accurate to a certain extent.)
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Wow just...wow...
That definition of 'Afrikaner' is offensive since it ignores the thousands of Afrikaans speakers that aren't white or related to the Dutch in anyway. It also ignores the incredibly important contributions, from many native Afrikaans speakers who aren't white and what they have done to enrich and grow the language.
Keeping the above in mind, there's also the added stigma that 'Afrikaner' was frequently used by racist, white supremacist parties like the AWB, to refer to 'their people'. My younger generation would rather not have our culture associated and tainted with something so purely evil.
Unfortunately change is slow as that definition shows, but slowly we are getting the word out. Most South African news stations have moved to using the term Afrikaans Speakers - even the main Afrikaans radio station in the country, now prefers the modern term.
As for who settled South Africa and where white South Africans came from - I was speaking of the earliest main groups that white Afrikaans speakers were descended from (as they are commonly listed in SA schools)...if you want me to list every possible group...that might take some time...Cape Town and the Eastern ports were pretty busy. I'd say we have a little of everything in us. I have a rich and mixed genetic pool of which I'm very proud.
Btw invaded?!?! Ok...I've did South African and general African history in school and college and that is the first time I've heard the word invaded used in relation with the Dutch. Weird...(also, I had very modern and forward thinking college lectures from various backgrounds and views.)
You should read some SA history. Start with the Portuguese, then move onto 1652 and the Dutch East India Company and Cape of Good Hope, then British rule of the Cape, then the Groot Trek and so on. Also I'd encourage reading up on the Zulu nation and the various smaller tribes - they're history is fascinating and important for understanding how SA is totally unique. Shaka, alone changed so many things - especially war. The man was a military genius. Also, I'd draw your attention to smaller land agreements between local chiefs and the small groups of Dutch/white settlers in Natal ( I was luckily enough to grow up in two towns were such agreements were made). The country wasn't one large mass consolidated under one main group (although the Zulu did control a huge chunk...)
You most likely want to look into the Boer and Zulu wars with British...(note the use of concentration camps to hold innocent women and children, that predates the Germans)
I'm not about to explain why SA history is totally different and why the word settler and colonist are important, we'd be here for hours. Historians have literally written thousands of books debating this very complicated topic. I had an amazing professor in college who even specialised in the Chinese influence on pre-colonial South Africa. It's a very wide topic, depending on where you start. South African history does not mimic the patterns seen in other African countries.
(It easy enough to start reading up on it - when you have a working understanding of South African history, we can debate things in more depth)
Last edited by Beezzi; 07-19-2015 at 09:26 PM.
Wait....do you want to discuss colonial African history or modern South African history? (Psst...those are two different periods...Apartheid started officially 1948.....) Of course then one has it's ugly roots in the other, but you don't even understand basic colonial SA history so how are you gonna understand modern history?
Apartheid didn't start when the Dutch landed - they had other problems. And that also skips British rule, the finding of gold and diamonds in the interior and three very important wars that leads to state which makes something as evil as Apartheid possible.
You need to understand the beginning to understand what happened in 1948....the Anglo Boer Wars are incredible important. I thought we were talking about the history of white colonial time settlers and the influences on the Afrikaans language which starts in 1652...really, you want to talk about the 1940s
It's like asking an American to explain the Revolutionary War to you, and then afterwards accusing them of not explaining how Franklin D. Roosevelt won the 1940 national election to you...
Last edited by Beezzi; 07-19-2015 at 09:26 PM.