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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    Why do you keep focusing in on ethnicity?

    And Smasher didnt suddenly just pop out of nowhere. She's been around for years
    Because the reality is that most writers in Marvel prefer a white-dominated cast. The minority X-Men like Sunspot, Karma, Jubilee, Dani are all put in Limbo.

    The only writer who prefers a multi-ethnic members is Chris Claremont and he introduced a lot like Storm, Karma, Sunspot, Jubilee, Dani, Warpath, Sunfire into the team.

    I won't be surprised if you go on denial mode again.

    I've been around for decades and didn't hear about Smasher until now.

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    I get where you're coming from. It seriously annoys me that Dani's been in comic limbo so long, while the much less interesting Sam Guthrie almost never is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arachne View Post
    I get where you're coming from. It seriously annoys me that Dani's been in comic limbo so long, while the much less interesting Sam Guthrie almost never is.
    If Sam Guthrie is not white, he'll most probably be in Limbo too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jalsrix View Post
    Because the reality is that most writers in Marvel prefer a white-dominated cast. The minority X-Men like Sunspot, Karma, Jubilee, Dani are all put in Limbo.

    The only writer who prefers a multi-ethnic members is Chris Claremont and he introduced a lot like Storm, Karma, Sunspot, Jubilee, Dani, Warpath, Sunfire into the team.

    I won't be surprised if you go on denial mode again.

    I've been around for decades and didn't hear about Smasher until now.
    Thats a personal issue. I wouldnt expect you to be aware of every character in existence but now you know she exists and has been around for quite some time now. You suddently found out about her but she didnt suddenly appear

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    Quote Originally Posted by jalsrix View Post
    If Sam Guthrie is not white, he'll most probably be in Limbo too.
    Possibly, but he's a straight, white everyman, so he'll keep showing up. It's not that there's anything really wrong with Sam, but there's not much that stands out, either. He does have interesting taste in women, though. I think I've liked every one of his love intrests. I haven't seen much of Smasher, mind you. I'm not into the Avengers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arachne View Post
    Possibly, but he's a straight, white everyman, so he'll keep showing up. It's not that there's anything really wrong with Sam, but there's not much that stands out, either. He does have interesting taste in women, though. I think I've liked every one of his love intrests. I haven't seen much of Smasher, mind you. I'm not into the Avengers.
    She's about as exciting as Wet Toast

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    I think the reason people are surprised that Sam and Smasher got married is because so much of the development of their relationship took place entirely off panel.

    They hooked up off panel sometime around Infinity, and then nothing. Then time skipped and they suddenly had an infant that they were sticking inside of a robot armor hoping that it would survive the end of the multiverse.

    There was very little build up. Their relationship went from 0 to 100 in the blink of an eye, we didn't see their wedding, we didn't see anything.

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    I'm betting they'll break up Sam and the wifey and/or Northstar and Kyle. I think one of them's gonna end up a love interest for Iceman

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    I could get behind Iceman/Northstar. My only exposure to Kyle was Marjorie Liu's Astonishing run and she wrote him as being horribly annoying and whiny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    I think the reason people are surprised that Sam and Smasher got married is because so much of the development of their relationship took place entirely off panel.

    They hooked up off panel sometime around Infinity, and then nothing. Then time skipped and they suddenly had an infant that they were sticking inside of a robot armor hoping that it would survive the end of the multiverse.

    There was very little build up. Their relationship went from 0 to 100 in the blink of an eye, we didn't see their wedding, we didn't see anything.
    No, the reason people are suprirsed by the marriage is that most people havent kept up with Avengers and didnt even know the character existed, let alone has been in a relationship with Sam

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    Quote Originally Posted by davetvs View Post
    I could get behind Iceman/Northstar. My only exposure to Kyle was Marjorie Liu's Astonishing run and she wrote him as being horribly annoying and whiny.
    I actually didn't mind him. He was the oddball human thrown into a mutant family. A bit of a Maddie in the early outback period. I know this sounds horrible, but if they do decide to pair up Northstar and Iceman (NorthPole? -- geddit???) they should kill him off

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    Quote Originally Posted by tornshattered View Post
    I'm betting they'll break up Sam and the wifey and/or Northstar and Kyle. I think one of them's gonna end up a love interest for Iceman
    Are the X-men ready for the masc4mascness of SamXBobby?

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    Quote Originally Posted by starduck View Post
    Are the X-men ready for the masc4mascness of SamXBobby?
    God I hope so. Mike Carey and Chris Bachalo giving us naked Bobby being cuddled by Sam in Supernovas!! Like it was nearly porn for me lol.

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    I don't see Sam being gay or bi as I don't remember anything in the 616 verse that would hint otherwise...if anything Sam will either be married or divorced and back with Tabitha by the end of this X-Force book...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoganAlpha30X33 View Post
    I don't see Sam being gay or bi as I don't remember anything in the 616 verse that would hint otherwise...if anything Sam will either be married or divorced and back with Tabitha by the end of this X-Force book...
    Where...has that be hinted at?

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