How do you prefer the Green Goblin?

[Moonfeather]

I like the ultimate version the best.

[davew128]

I can say dead right?

I'm down with this. Of all the contrived poorly written dead not dead retcons, this was at the top of the list for worst. I almost would have preferred it to be another of Warren's clones than a Wolverine level healing factor pulled out of someone's rear end.

[Thievery]

I prefer a more tech based villain.

But having said that, I would have preferred that Norman had stayed dead. Maybe it's because I'm not from the era where Norman was considered an essential villain, but I wouldn't miss Norman at all.
If Spider-Man needs a Green Goblin enemy then I don't see why you couldn't just use Norman's son in the role instead.

[Huntsman Spider]

I'm down with this. Of all the contrived poorly written dead not dead retcons, this was at the top of the list for worst. I almost would have preferred it to be another of Warren's clones than a Wolverine level healing factor pulled out of someone's rear end.

My personal canon is that Norman was actually resurrected, not simply faking dead, by Mephisto or someone else like that with the intent of using him to torque with Spider-Man until he was at a point where he could be corrupted. It would at least explain why everyone fell for it so easily when he tried to make himself out to be a legitimate businessman again.

I prefer a more tech based villain.

But having said that, I would have preferred that Norman had stayed dead. Maybe it's because I'm not from the era where Norman was considered an essential villain, but I wouldn't miss Norman at all.
If Spider-Man needs a Green Goblin enemy then I don't see why you couldn't just use Norman's son in the role instead.

Harry was dead at the time, from his own "improved" Goblin serum, not that that stopped him from taunting Peter from beyond the grave with a postmortem revenge plot involving the Chameleon and robotic doppelgangers of Peter's parents.

[TheCape]

I feel that i one of the few that actually likes Norman resurrection lol.

I prefer him as a tech based villain with the serum boosting his strength, Norman lose a lot of his appeal by making him a literal monster. Also i prefer him not writen by Bendis and not as the main bad guy Avenger levels of villany please .

[Pav]

I like my Green Goblin with Phil Urich under the mask and teamed-up with Scarlet Spider against Joystick.

-Pav, who also likes those Osborn guys...

[phantom1592]

I feel that i one of the few that actually likes Norman resurrection lol.

I prefer him as a tech based villain with the serum boosting his strength, Norman lose a lot of his appeal by making him a literal monster. Also i prefer him not writen by Bendis and not as the main bad guy Avenger levels of villany please .

I always loved the resurrection too. Green Goblin was always one of my favorite Iconic villains. I think he became overused in the last decade... but if it wasn't him they'd have run someone else into the ground :P


My favorite Goblin looks like this.
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The problem is that iconic looking face with the bulging eyes and giant mouth is always WAY too... emotive to be a 'mask'. I think it was in Spider-man and his Amazing Friends where we got to see a Norman that actually Jekyll and Hyded into the goblin face and that made a lot of sense.

I hated Ultimate goblin 'hulking' out like that.... but something where he shifts green and bug eyed like that? Yeah, I can get behind that. It's why I liked the Green Goblin makeup in Amazing Spider-man 2 better than I liked the Power Rangers helmet of Spider-man….

Man if they'd only given Dafoe some makeup like that.... THAT would have been a green goblin.!

[comicscollector]

I prefer the classic Green Goblin by far.Well not as classic as in the first story that had him using a flying bromstick but right after he got the Goblin Glider.

[Frontier]

I prefer a tech-based Green Goblin with a costume.

There's just something to be said about Spider-Man's Archenemy having his own set of themed gadgets and outfits and being able to go mano-a-mano with Spidey in a more direct and personal way that you can't really get in the same way with the Hulkgoblin.

And of course there's the shared symbolism of masks and identity that, while in some ways apparent with Ultimate Goblin, isn't as pronounced.

Not to mention it's more original then "Hulk who can shoot fire."

[Thievery]

Harry was dead at the time, from his own "improved" Goblin serum, not that that stopped him from taunting Peter from beyond the grave with a postmortem revenge plot involving the Chameleon and robotic doppelgangers of Peter's parents.

Okay, I get that. But I would still prefer for Norman to have stayed dead. If you want a Goblin just resurrect Harry instead. Harry made for a better villain seeing as he was Pete's friend and wanted revenge for his dad. And I like to keep the death of Gwen story more intact.

That's just my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

I prefer him as a tech based villain with the serum boosting his strength, Norman lose a lot of his appeal by making him a literal monster. Also i prefer him not writen by Bendis and not as the main bad guy Avenger levels of villany please .

I agree with all of this.

[Michael Watkins]

I found the Ultimate Goblin design to be very uninspired.

[The Negative Zone]

I like both at times. Tech based typically, but monster like is okay for alternate universes like Noir Goblin.

[WebLurker]

Me, I'm fine with either; they work in their respective stories and that's all that matter's to me.

[Frontier]

I found the Ultimate Goblin design to be very uninspired.

I think even Mark Bagley once said in an interview that he would've liked to have re-done Ultimate Goblin's design.

Me, I'm fine with either; they work in their respective stories and that's all that matter's to me.

And a good perspective to have .

[Huntsman Spider]

I feel that i one of the few that actually likes Norman resurrection lol.

I prefer him as a tech based villain with the serum boosting his strength, Norman lose a lot of his appeal by making him a literal monster. Also i prefer him not writen by Bendis and not as the main bad guy Avenger levels of villany please .

I actually liked him as an Avengers-level villain. A lot of the guys Spider-Man fights against would, if not wreck the Avengers, at least give them a hell of a fight if they could organize themselves or harness their abilities better. The only thing I didn't like was Spider-Man largely taking a backseat to the others in the Avengers books, as given everything he knows and has been through concerning Osborn, he should have taken point in dealing with him. That's my biggest disappointment when it comes to Dark Reign/Siege and the later New Dark Avengers arc.

Okay, I get that. But I would still prefer for Norman to have stayed dead. If you want a Goblin just resurrect Harry instead. Harry made for a better villain seeing as he was Pete's friend and wanted revenge for his dad. And I like to keep the death of Gwen story more intact.

That's just my opinion. Feel free to disagree.



I agree with all of this.

I actually do agree that Harry could've easily been a better arch-nemesis than Norman, given his far more personal reasons for wanting Peter dead and their former closeness before that. Come to think of it, the story of Harry Osborn's descent into villainy is as much about Peter's failures as a friend as it is about Harry's emotional and psychological fragility, and don't the best villains say something compelling about the hero they oppose in the first place? I think that's why I didn't mind Harry being the Goblin in Amazing Spider-Man 2, as it at least tried to carry over that juxtaposition of Harry's emotional and psychological fragility and vulnerability with Peter's own failings and culpability vis-à-vis Harry's deteriorating health and sanity.