Age of X questions.

[Beetle]

It was a mind-game / reality warp. It was contained on Utopia. Nothing and no one outside of the island were affected. Everything they experienced before "arriving" was result of telepathic suggestion. Rachel got drawn in because her mind was trying to actively reach out from her physical place in the Shi'Ar empire. She explained as much. Anything longer than the 7 days was implanted by David/Moira/whatever.

The event affected them in that Moira put everything else, the entire universe, in the box.

[yogaflame]

Not exactly. I'm fairly sure that X/Moira put the rest of the universe inside that little box, and replace all of 616 with just Fortress X. Rachel became Revenant because her body wasn't physically on Utopia at the time.

They never really addressed if the rest of the universe experienced time passing while inside the box.

I feel like the universe in the box was more a metaphor for the rest of reality the Utopians were being blocked from behind their force field, which was really just the edge of Utopia/the ocean. Sort of like Plato's "Cave".

They even approached this in Legion season 2.

[Beetle]

I feel like the universe in the box was more a metaphor for the rest of reality the Utopians were being blocked from behind their force field, which was really just the edge of Utopia/the ocean. Sort of like Plato's "Cave".

They even approached this in Legion season 2.

It could have been metaphorical, but with just how powerful Legion can be I wouldn't rule out a literal interpretation. The dialogue and plot treated it like it was literal, Moira shook the box and the whole fortress shook, like that one episode of Futurama.

I don't think it was another Second Coming situation where Utopia disappeared behind a giant forcefield again for a week as the X-men were playing out David's fantasy and no one on the outside noticed. There was nothing outside of the Force Walls, that's why Kitty's pictures of the absolute nothingness were such a big deal. They were alone in their universe, and everything else just didn't exist.

The universe stopped existing for a week because it was inside that box, there was only Fortress X. Once Legion put everything back, the universe went on like normal.

[yogaflame]

When has Legion ever done a universal feat like that before? AOA doesn't even count, he just killed Xavier by accident in the past, so that changed history. I don't think that was literally the universe in a box, it was just everything that the Utopians had lost sight of in their delusion.

[Beetle]

When has Legion ever done a universal feat like that before? AOA doesn't even count, he just killed Xavier by accident in the past, so that changed history. I don't think that was literally the universe in a box, it was just everything that the Utopians had lost sight of in their delusion.

Legion killed the Elder Gods from Limbo. He was a straight up reality warper, same as Franklin or Wanda. If Franklin can create universes in his bedroom and Wanda can alter multiple realities with a single spell, Legion can lock up the universe in a storage bin.

And it wasn't just a delusion, he physically changed their bodies (just look at Chamber), altered their histories, and created armies of sentinels and humans trying to kill them. Yes it was small and only existed for the people who were on Utopia, but it happened.

[Celestialbodies]

Legion killed the Elder Gods from Limbo. He was a straight up reality warper, same as Franklin or Wanda. If Franklin can create universes in his bedroom and Wanda can alter multiple realities with a single spell, Legion can lock up the universe in a storage bin.

And it wasn't just a delusion, he physically changed their bodies (just look at Chamber), altered their histories, and created armies of sentinels and humans trying to kill them. Yes it was small and only existed for the people who were on Utopia, but it happened.

Was just about to comment everything here, at the time reading the issues I thought similar to yogaflame, but Carey went out of his way to explain what actually occurred. Which as you stated the rest of the universe was stuffed away so Fortress X could take it's place.

[yogaflame]

Legion killed the Elder Gods from Limbo. He was a straight up reality warper, same as Franklin or Wanda. If Franklin can create universes in his bedroom and Wanda can alter multiple realities with a single spell, Legion can lock up the universe in a storage bin.

And it wasn't just a delusion, he physically changed their bodies (just look at Chamber), altered their histories, and created armies of sentinels and humans trying to kill them. Yes it was small and only existed for the people who were on Utopia, but it happened.

I haven't read these Elder God stories you are referring to, but there have been many Marvel characters who have bested 'gods'(including Magik vs her own set of Elder Gods if I am remembering correctly), so that's not enough for me. Franklin created the Heroes Reborn universe, yes, but he's always been regarded as the most powerful mutant, and that was a pocket universe. The extra universes he's been creating since have been assisted by Molecule Man, and attracted the attention of Entropy(see last comment). I would accept that Legion rearranged Utopia into it's own 'pocket universe' for that week, but I don't think he spilled out into the wider universe. As for Wanda, they retconned that with Doom and that extra magic stuff.

It wasn't just a psychic delusion, Legion rearranged things on Utopia, yes, but I don't believe the effect was universal. There would have been greater repercussions across the MU if that were the case.

[Beetle]

I haven't read these Elder God stories you are referring to, but there have been many Marvel characters who have bested 'gods'(including Magik vs her own set of Elder Gods if I am remembering correctly), so that's not enough for me. Franklin created the Heroes Reborn universe, yes, but he's always been regarded as the most powerful mutant, and that was a pocket universe. The extra universes he's been creating since have been assisted by Molecule Man, and attracted the attention of Entropy(see last comment). I would accept that Legion rearranged Utopia into it's own 'pocket universe' for that week, but I don't think he spilled out into the wider universe. As for Wanda, they retconned that with Doom and that extra magic stuff.

It wasn't just a psychic delusion, Legion rearranged things on Utopia, yes, but I don't believe the effect was universal. There would have been greater repercussions across the MU if that were the case.

Magik didn't beat her Elder Gods, she needed to use Legion as a weapon because she was too weak to do it herself.

Age of X was a pocket bubble of a universe, it only existed up to the Force Walls. Moira just put everything else away and wasn't skilled enough to replace it all.

As for a lack of repercussions, if the entire universe was just kinda frozen in place within its box, then no one would have even noticed that anything had changed once Legion put everything back. Plus Marvel editors aren't the best at applying what should be a world changing status quo shift across all books (see also: Mothervine)

[yogaflame]

Magik didn't beat her Elder Gods, she needed to use Legion as a weapon because she was too weak to do it herself.

Age of X was a pocket bubble of a universe, it only existed up to the Force Walls. Moira just put everything else away and wasn't skilled enough to replace it all.

As for a lack of repercussions, if the entire universe was just kinda frozen in place within its box, then no one would have even noticed that anything had changed once Legion put everything back. Plus Marvel editors aren't the best at applying what should be a world changing status quo shift across all books (see also: Mothervine)

Bah. We're giving this more thought than the original writer did. Without the gorgeous art, no one would remember this story. Even with the art, it barely merits mention. Believe Legion did whatever you want.

[Master of Sound]

It was a great story. It should have lasted longer tough.

The changes of many characters were for the better and it made Frenzy a hero.

The art was fantastic and the X-Men were sexy again.

[Jesse-James]

I really loved what they did with Warpath, Pixie, Cannonball, Hellion, Psylocke, Frenzy and Uniscione in that story.

Only thing I did not like was the Namor/Storm relationship.

[yogaflame]

Only thing I did not like was the Namor/Storm relationship.

If they had expanded this part, I might look more favorably on this story. I've always thought Ororo and Namor should team up and punish the surface worlders for polluting the planet and usher in an eco-utopia! By the Goddess Rex!



(That was also such a plot hole in this story. Storm would have sensed the weather patterns didn't exist beyond the TK wall. She really did nothing in this story....)

[BroHomo]

I really loved what they did with Warpath, Pixie, Cannonball, Hellion, Psylocke, Frenzy's and Uniscione in that story.

Only thing I did not like was the Namor/Storm relationship.

Everything about AoX was sexy AF esp The New Mutants

[AHRNIHAL]

If they had expanded this part, I might look more favorably on this story. I've always thought Ororo and Namor should team up and punish the surface worlders for polluting the planet and usher in an eco-utopia! By the Goddess Rex!



(That was also such a plot hole in this story. Storm would have sensed the weather patterns didn't exist beyond the TK wall. She really did nothing in this story....)

Because moira prevented it.

[PhoenixLives]

It was a mind-game / reality warp. It was contained on Utopia. Nothing and no one outside of the island were affected. Everything they experienced before "arriving" was result of telepathic suggestion. Rachel got drawn in because her mind was trying to actively reach out from her physical place in the Shi'Ar empire. She explained as much. Anything longer than the 7 days was implanted by David/Moira/whatever.

This was how I understood it as well