CYBORG volume 3?

[daBronzeBomma]

So, is Victor Stone doomed, as far as solo ongoing titles go?

Or will he get a 3rd chance?

And what could a 3rd series of a CYBORG comic book learn from the 1st and 2nd series, in terms of what worked and doesn't work?

Who would you want as the creative team? What newer themes could be explored?

When, if ever, do you think we might see another CYBORG ongoing? Or would a series of planned miniseries be better for him?

[Iconic]

Doomed.

There's no one currently at DC with the skill and vision who cares enough to write him.

DC stopped his physical advancement to the disappointment of those who were really interested in him which lends itself to the lack of wish-fulfulment.

At no point is he pushed to the forefront in any meaningful way. If DC doesn't care, why should we?

[Timothy Hunter]

Actually, I quite liked Rebirth Cyborg. It wasn't exceptional, and it was a little behind in the times, but I suspect if that series was released three or four decades earlier, it would be received more fanfare and acclaim.

Anyway, this is what I would do to relaunch Cyborg in a new ongoing.

I would change his personality: basically every Cyborg series has portrayed him as a depressed, self pitying robot. Always questioning his humanity. This conflicts with Cyborg's most mainstream portrayal in the Teen Titans and Teen Titans Go cartoons.There they portray the character as happy go lucky and fun. Something the character for the comics often sorely lacks.

Have him not star in a solo series, but a team up title: Maybe Cyborg on his own just doesn't sell comic books. Maybe no matter what, fans are not going to flock to a title where he stars alone. However, interest might be generated if he is teamed up with a fellow superhero. My pick is Beast Boy. My idea for this series is similar to the concept of Firestorm wherein the characters would be combined into one being, but still be able to communicate with one another

[Vordan]

I swear to God if they put Wolfman on a Vol. 3 I’d lose it. I liked Rebirth Cyborg. It has a cheesey Bronze Age feel to it that I enjoyed. I liked the supporting cast and rogues characters that Semper added, and that he built on what Walker was doing before Walker left. Conrad was great on art.

Apparently there’s an editor at DC who insists every Cyborg writer has to focus on “am I a man or a machine”? If that’s true then Vic will never see any real success as long as that idiot is in charge.

[Adekis]

What Walker and Reis did by having Vic become so technologically advanced that he could morph back to a man at will was the most intriguing thing that happened to him. EVER. He finally became a character one could enjoy being.

Then DC stripped it away for another round of "man or machine" in a much less appealing look.

Should he ever get a solo again...advance the concept.

I would change his personality: basically every Cyborg series has portrayed him as a depressed, self pitying robot. Always questioning his humanity. This conflicts with Cyborg's most mainstream portrayal in the Teen Titans and Teen Titans Go cartoons.There they portray the character as happy go lucky and fun. Something the character for the comics often sorely lacks.

I'd say take those two ideas and mash 'em together. Stop writing Cyborg in a constant state of self-pity and navel gazing, and start writing him as an upbeat, goofy, and fun-loving nerd/jock hybrid, whose general joie de vivre belies an occasional and understated melancholy introspection. Then return Cyborg's super OP abilities and organic-at-will power from Walker and Reis, so DC can never do that boring-ass "man or machine" crap again.

And then yeah, just because I've been saying it for seven whole years, send him to New Genesis for a while. Emphasize the Kirby connection. Let him spend some time with Orion and Lightray or something like that.

[9th.]

They need to find someone that gives a damn first before they throw him another book. I'm tired of seeing a good character get mediocre titles.

[Iconic]

I'd say take those two ideas and mash 'em together. Stop writing Cyborg in a constant state of self-pity and navel gazing, and start writing him as an upbeat, goofy, and fun-loving nerd/jock hybrid, whose general joie de vivre belies an occasional and understated melancholy introspection. Then return Cyborg's super OP abilities and organic-at-will power from Walker and Reis, so DC can never do that boring-ass "man or machine" crap again.

And then yeah, just because I've been saying it for seven whole years, send him to New Genesis for a while. Emphasize the Kirby connection. Let him spend some time with Orion and Lightray or something like that.

Organic-at-will. That’s the phrase I’ve been looking for.

They need to find someone that gives a damn first before they throw him another book. I'm tired of seeing a good character get mediocre titles.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Does anyone at DC care? Is there anyone there who wants to advance the concept of Cyborg?

[Vordan]

They need to find someone that gives a damn first before they throw him another book. I'm tired of seeing a good character get mediocre titles.

I thought Walker and Semper did care, they just didn’t get the freedom to accomplish what they set out to do.

[Falcon16]

I just want a female writer onboard, the series to be very animesque, and focus on something other than "well am I sauce (man) or am I salt (machine)?"

Also, reintroduce Grid as a machine that's part man (yes, he'll have emotion.)

[skyvolt2000]

So, is Victor Stone doomed, as far as solo ongoing titles go?

Or will he get a 3rd chance?

NO he shouldn't until you remove that editor who ruined his previous runs with nonstop man vs machine crap.

At no point is he pushed to the forefront in any meaningful way. If DC doesn't care, why should we?

THIS

I mean if Dc is willing to ignore what has been done with Panther, Miles, Cage and now Patriot in Marvel Rising-to not eve TRY to counter-why should fans care?

[daBronzeBomma]

Alright, who is this editor?

I want a name to put on this bane of Cyborg's existence.

[Flash Gordon]

Cyborg could be such a rad character with his own little cyber punk corner of the DCU.

[Timothy Hunter]

Cyborg could be such a rad character with his own little cyber punk corner of the DCU.

An imprint?

[Iconic]

What Walker and Reis did by having Vic become so technologically advanced that he could morph back to a man at will was the most intriguing thing that happened to him. EVER. He finally became a character one could enjoy being.

Then DC stripped it away for another round of "man or machine" in a much less appealing look.

Should he ever get a solo again...advance the concept.

[Lee Stone]

Cyborg would be the perfect character for Grant Morrison.
He has more wiggle room for being expanded on in interesting ways than any of the A-listers.

The only other Leaguer that I think would do better under Morrison is probably Zatanna.