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    Quote Originally Posted by Witchfan View Post
    Star Trek: The Original Series' Theme Had Lyrics (And They're Terrible)
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    So did Bonanza. They were worse.

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    What do the lyrics have to do with the show?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mik View Post
    What do the lyrics have to do with the show?
    Royalties for Gene Roddenberry. And that's about it.

    Seriously, the show was already pretty much ready to go, with the lyrics added as an afterthought well after most development had been done because Gene found out about royalties.

    This also meant that Roddenberry cut Alexander Courage's own royalties in half.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyke View Post
    Royalties for Gene Roddenberry. And that's about it.

    Seriously, the show was already pretty much ready to go, with the lyrics added as an afterthought well after most development had been done because Gene found out about royalties.

    This also meant that Roddenberry cut Alexander Courage's own royalties in half.
    Wow, that's quite the opposite of Star Trek's utopian ideals

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mik View Post
    Wow, that's quite the opposite of Star Trek's utopian ideals
    Roddenberry was far less enlightened then what his show became.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyke View Post
    Royalties for Gene Roddenberry. And that's about it.

    Seriously, the show was already pretty much ready to go, with the lyrics added as an afterthought well after most development had been done because Gene found out about royalties.

    This also meant that Roddenberry cut Alexander Courage's own royalties in half.
    What a piece of shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WebLurker View Post
    Roddenberry was far less enlightened then what his show became.
    Seems so. Although a lot of those ideas came from TNG, long after all of this

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    After weaving a 55+ year narrative, we often forget that despite the utopian future ST endorses, it's still the product of 20th/21st century conceits and failings. The men behind the curtain have always been greedy, old, white Hollywood executives.
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    https://trekmovie.com/2021/06/15/noa...tion/#comments
    Noah Hawley Laments Paramount Halting His “Really Fun” Star Trek Movie Just Before Production


    Noah Hawley is disappointed Paramount haled his star trek movie but JJ Abrams is still making another film? why?

    It must be a power thing.

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    I have Paramount Plus, and am watching all Star Trek shows chronologically. So far, I have watched all four seasons of Star Trek: Enterprise and the first season of Star Trek: Discovery. The first two season of Enterprise were boring, but the third and fourth season were better. The first season of Discovery is on par with the latter two seasons of Enterprise.

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    watched tos and the first 6 movies now making my way through tng. the first trek series i saw was ds9 so i thought jake sisko was the worst but im on the wesley hate wagon now for sure

    also ive liked dr. pulaski better than crusher

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Gold Stream View Post
    watched tos and the first 6 movies now making my way through tng. the first trek series i saw was ds9 so i thought jake sisko was the worst but im on the wesley hate wagon now for sure

    also ive liked dr. pulaski better than crusher
    It's okay to be wrong sometimes.

    Kidding, of course! To each their own.
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    I was watching Tin Man again last night ... has Gomtuu/Elbrun ever shown up again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeastieRunner View Post
    I was watching Tin Man again last night ... has Gomtuu/Elbrun ever shown up again?
    Tam Elbrun was at least mentioned; I want to say in either a comic or novel...? But never again onscreen to my knowledge.
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    Never saw or heard from them again in canon. Not sure about non-canon, either, but the mention of Tin Man reminded me of this Titan novel featuring several of the many species able to survive in and travel through space we've seen over the years.
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