Star Trek: All of Em

[luprki]

The Vulcan don’t understand most emotional reactions are logical

[CosmiComic]

Most, but not all

[Kirby101]

The Vulcans are the most illogical species in the universe. Because it’s illogical to be logical. Being logical is a stupid concept.

Why would you think reason and logic is illogical?

[The Gold Stream]

vulcans are alright i didnt like those ritual fights and what not

[luprki]

Why would you think reason and logic is illogical?

Because emotions are logical for survival. Vulcans are trying to be computers, I see why the Romulans broke away from them.

[CosmiComic]

Emotions are logical as long as they make sense

[Kirby101]

Because emotions are logical for survival. Vulcans are trying to be computers, I see why the Romulans broke away from them.

Maybe for survival in the Savanah, but I would say emotions aren't the best way to run a modern society. Unless you think angry Trumpers storming the Capitol is good.

[CosmiComic]

At least not emotions which run counter to facts and lead people to do stupid things, like in the comment above

[The Gold Stream]

i wonder if a big enough percentage of the vulcan population did kolinahr if they could advance their tech and stuff further

[DrNewGod]

i wonder if a big enough percentage of the vulcan population did kolinahr if they could advance their tech and stuff further

Hard to say. Theoretically, it might make them more objective in their analyses, but I'm not sure if it would enhance their creativity. More kolinahr would seemingly make them better at identifying needs for advancement, but I could see it also making them less willing to consider unusual solutions.

Also, I don't know how much time in a given day a Vulcan has to spend meditating to maintain kolinahr. STTMP makes it clear that it requires a lot of effort to achieve the state, but I have to wonder if that's something that's ongoing. Might not leave them much room for invention and creativity.

[luprki]

Where has Vulcan’s logic gotten them? They are not smarter, they are not more advanced. Their planet was blown up in one the timeline.
The point is a logical society is nonsense and goes against nature.

[CosmiComic]

I get the feeling Star Trek sometimes shades the Vulcans as not necessarily always being right

[Castle]

The Vulcan don’t understand most emotional reactions are logical

They do. Sometimes even if it is twisted to see how logic and emotions are linked.

In star trek 2009 , Spock relinquishing command of the Enterprise for been emotionally compromised. he knew there was no logic in him carrying on as Captain after beating the crap out of Kirk.

[Sutekh]

The Vulcans are the most illogical species in the universe. Because it’s illogical to be logical. Being logical is a stupid concept.

It's important to *them* because the alternative was being hyper-violent feuding tribes for thousands of years, unable to advance beyond 'angry all the time and killing each other for no real reason.' They are super-aggressive, and incredibly strong, and were killing each other faster than they could replace their numbers. Logic allowed them to manage that.

The Romulans managed to sublimate their rage into constant 'cold war' and longer-term betrayals of each other, a society that had been torn apart by hot rage, they replaced with cold hate. (Not a pleasant alternative, but it worked for them, until the writers blew up *their* planet.)

[ChrisIII]

Enterprise did have a plotline in season 4 that basically explained that the Vulcans had drifted from Surak's teachings, and by the end they were rediscovering them/going through a sort of reformation into the TOS style Vulcans. There's even a young T'Pau (at one point T'Pol was going to be a young T'Pau but due to several issues including legal one this was dropped, but the idea of a young T'pau was revived for season 4, just not as one of the crew).