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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders View Post
    Yes, but she won’t. She wants to work with Feige to bring the XMen and Averagers together.
    So Basically Feige will be forced to work with Donner on MCU X-Men?

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    Quote Originally Posted by frankyspaceout View Post
    So Basically Feige will be forced to work with Donner on MCU X-Men?
    NO she doesn't own anything Disney Owns the Characters or else Marvel Comics couldn't use them and she helped secure the FILM RIGHTS for Fox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jokerz79 View Post
    NO she doesn't own anything Disney Owns the Characters or else Marvel Comics couldn't use them and she helped secure the FILM RIGHTS for Fox.
    She only production rights to the live action characters, Marvel Comic has nothing to do with that.
    She helped secure film distribution rights with Fox for herself.
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    I'm sorry Raiders, but you are suffering from semantic confusion & misinterpreting things, willfully or otherwise.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Men_(film)
    ... Meanwhile, Avi Arad produced the animated X-Men TV series for Fox Kids. 20th Century Fox was impressed by the success of the TV show, and producer Lauren Shuler Donner purchased the film rights for them in 1994...
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Men_(film_series)
    ... 20th Century Fox obtained the film rights to the characters in 1994...


    ... In 1994, 20th Century Fox and producer Lauren Shuler Donner bought the film rights to the X-Men. ...
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_Studios
    ... By the end of 1993, Arad and 20th Century Fox struck a deal to make a film based on the X-Men. ...

    ... Marvel had licensed out the film rights to many of their characters to other studios in the 1990s, starting with the X-Men to 20th Century Fox in 1993. ...

    ... On December 14, 2017, Disney agreed to purchase 20th Century Fox's parent company 21st Century Fox... Disney plans to reincorporate the X-Men and Fantastic Four franchise of characters and Deadpool with their own Marvel properties...
    Functionally, in many ways, Donner @ FoX = Fiege @ Marvel Studios:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_producer
    A film producer is a person who oversees the production of a film. Either employed by a production company or working independently, producers plan and coordinate various aspects of film production, such as selecting the script; coordinating writing, directing, and editing; and arranging financing. ...
    ... and he doesn't own the rights to any characters, either.

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    You are seriously using Wikipedia as your source?
    But it got it half right, even Wikipedia is saying she has ownership:

    In 1994, 20th Century Fox bought the film rights to the X-Men.
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    Just 'cause it was the easiest. The only thing you've produced is one poorly worded article from a questionably reputable source. Oh, and Reddit as the inspiration I guess, lol. At least Wikipedia provides multiple references for corroboration. But I understand your reluctance to accept the truth, in order to desperately try & save face. You're factually incorrect, simply wrong, and just need to come to grips with that. You'll come around to dealing with reality sooner or later, I'm sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders View Post
    You are seriously using Wikipedia as your source?
    But it got it half right, even Wikipedia is saying she has ownership:

    In 1994, 20th Century Fox and producer Lauren Shuler Donner bought the film rights to the X-Men.
    Buying something in 1994 and still owning it in 2018 are not the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders View Post
    ... But it got it half right, even Wikipedia is saying she has ownership...
    Nope, you're wrong, as you always have been. Ya can't even differentiate this right:

    owns: have (something) as one's own; possess.

    license: authorize the use, performance, or release of (something).

    And please, no further, feeble attempts at cherry-picking, it only serves to doom your argument(s) that much more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carabas View Post
    Buying something in 1994 and still owning it in 2018 are not the same thing.
    In this case, yes


    Quote Originally Posted by Heroine Addict View Post
    Nope, you're wrong, as you always have been. Ya can't even differentiate this right:

    owns: have (something) as one's own; possess.

    license: authorize the use, performance, or release of (something).

    And please, no further, feeble attempts at cherry-picking, it only serves to doom your argument(s) that much more.
    You’re funny
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders View Post
    In this case, yes...
    And you have somehting that shows her owning the X-Men film rights today?

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    Quote Originally Posted by frankyspaceout View Post
    Even when the Disney Fox merger is complete she could take it to any other studio like WB, Sony, Paramount, Universal etc?
    No. She doesn't have ownership of either the characters or their film rights, despite the wild claims made here. The film rights were always retained by Fox. Once the merger with Disney is complete, all the Marvel IPs held by Fox will be controlled by Disney. Disney has already stated Kevin Feige will be overseeing the X-Men when they are integrated into the MCU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders View Post
    ... You’re funny
    And you're still playing pretend it seems, silly bear, with your cutesy propaganda. But:

    https://law.justia.com/cases/federal...155/1/2365871/
    Twentieth Century Fox Film Corp. v. Marvel Enterprises
    ... In October 1993, Fox and Marvel entered into an agreement (the "1993 Agreement" or "Agreement") pursuant to which Marvel licensed to Fox the exclusive right to create, produce, distribute and market theatrical motion pictures based on the "X-Men Property" (or "Property"), which refers to the "X-Men comic book series." ... Paragraph 6 of the Agreement, entitled "Granted Rights," states that Property to which Fox obtained rights included (i) certain characters specified in Exhibit A to the Agreement, (ii) the so-called "origin stories" of those characters appearing in the story or screenplay of the film, (iii) all individual storylines from individual comic books other than the origin stories, and, in a catch-all provision, (iv) "all other elements relating to the Property and the Characters."...
    ... GAME OVER! The details of what, when, & how, it's all there, read it & weep. And though it's even more difficult, try & do your best, with the legal speak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heroine Addict View Post
    And you're still playing pretend it seems, silly bear, with your cutesy propaganda. But:

    https://law.justia.com/cases/federal...155/1/2365871/


    ... GAME OVER! The details of what, when, & how, it's all there, read it & weep. And though it's even more difficult, try & do your best, with the legal speak.
    I believe and accept this, because it’s not a media outlet, you’re right GAME OVER.
    But I’m not weeping

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    Finally this discussion is over. Fox owns the X-Men movie rights and that's it. Now, let's move on.

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    LOL, truly a battle of the ages.

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