DC and the Bat Family

[LP22]

I don't know why but DC really don't want an healthy bat family just look at Jason,Damien,ric grayson all of them now hate batman or aren't in the family anymore I'm sick and tired of the bat family always having to be at odds and rebirth being undone for edgy stories

[DGraysonWorldsGreatestSpy]

Because even though they create endless stories that can remove them from existence and they hardly if ever appear in the main book, there is a Contingent Of Fans and People in DC who hate the Bat Family and would like to destroy each member to create this mythical Absolute Batman who never marries or has associates beyond Alfred & Jim. They use the 11 issues of ‘39 To ‘40 Batman as justification but if they actually read those stories they would know he was engaged to Julie Madison and the Dark Knight World has had a Robin since the first book and a small bat militia at the end. The Bat Family have treated like this for a long time and it will only increase. DC will never allow the Titans to just exist without the JL belittling them

[millernumber1]

Because even though they create endless stories that can remove them from existence and they hardly if ever appear in the main book, there is a Contingent Of Fans and People in DC who hate the Bat Family and would like to destroy each member to create this mythical Absolute Batman who never marries or has associates beyond Alfred & Jim. They use the 11 issues of ‘39 To ‘40 Batman as justification but if they actually read those stories they would know he was engaged to Julie Madison and the Dark Knight World has had a Robin since the first book and a small bat militia at the end. The Bat Family have treated like this for a long time and it will only increase. DC will never allow the Titans to just exist without the JL belittling them

Too true, mate.

[Jackalope89]

The only Bat title I've enjoyed right now is Super Sons, and that one is set in the past.

Rebirth did a lot of course correcting, fixing a lot of things and setting up the future of fixing others. But it seems like its regressing now worse than before.

[uchihafanboy]

Because even though they create endless stories that can remove them from existence and they hardly if ever appear in the main book, there is a Contingent Of Fans and People in DC who hate the Bat Family and would like to destroy each member to create this mythical Absolute Batman who never marries or has associates beyond Alfred & Jim. They use the 11 issues of ‘39 To ‘40 Batman as justification but if they actually read those stories they would know he was engaged to Julie Madison and the Dark Knight World has had a Robin since the first book and a small bat militia at the end. The Bat Family have treated like this for a long time and it will only increase. DC will never allow the Titans to just exist without the JL belittling them

Pretty much this, they like loner Batman and that is that.

[Armor of God]

Story telling moves in cycles and phases. Dark & edgy then light and optimistic and back to the former and then the latter again.

[oasis1313]

Story telling moves in cycles and phases. Dark & edgy then light and optimistic and back to the former and then the latter again.

Dark and edgy seems to have a lot more camera time.

[WhipWhirlwind]

Dark and edgy seems to have a lot more camera time.

And often involves his supporting cast (who have fanbases of their own) paying the price for it.

[oasis1313]

And often involves his supporting cast (who have fanbases of their own) paying the price for it.

One problem is that these kinds of things are never followed through in the main book(s). Dick takes a head shot, you blink, and he's out on the street again. Did none of the Bat-Family even bother to visit the hospital? Or was there a hospital? He's lost all his memories so he's out there with no support group whatsoever. It's like when he "died" in "Forever Evil"--nobody gave a damn.

[WhipWhirlwind]

One problem is that these kinds of things are never followed through in the main book(s). Dick takes a head shot, you blink, and he's out on the street again. Did none of the Bat-Family even bother to visit the hospital? Or was there a hospital? He's lost all his memories so he's out there with no support group whatsoever. It's like when he "died" in "Forever Evil"--nobody gave a damn.

I'm honestly okay with that so long as I get good issues with the character, but more and more it seems like Grayson was a result of two guys with a good idea being met with completely apathy on the character and it working out great.

Like King/Seeley were met with "Sure...whatever guys, we just need him back in the suit by (date)" by editorial.

[The tall man]

Well lately it seems like the family simply exists to crap all over and blame Batman for everything. Also the fact that fans of the family love it when the their fave puts Bruce in his place and make him look bad. It's either Batman is a jerk, hypocrite, bad father, child abuser and so forth. So yes there are some that prefer a solo Batman because everytime the family is around him he becomes the bad guy. Look no further than the so called "Trial of Batwoman" Tec issue, Tynion had a field day with that one.

[Magneto]

I mean, I like loner Batman way more than with his Bat-family. It's a matter of opinion I guess.

[oasis1313]

I mean, I like loner Batman way more than with his Bat-family. It's a matter of opinion I guess.

They don't have to live in each others' pockets, but Thanksgivings and Christmases would be nice.

[byrd156]

I don't know why but DC really don't want an healthy bat family just look at Jason,Damien,ric grayson all of them now hate batman or aren't in the family anymore I'm sick and tired of the bat family always having to be at odds and rebirth being undone for edgy stories

Jason being out of the family is how it should be.

Damien and Dick only seems like a temporary thing that everyone will forget in a year or so.

[oasis1313]

Jason being out of the family is how it should be.

Damien and Dick only seems like a temporary thing that everyone will forget in a year or so.

To be honest, I have problems with Bruce's attitude that it's okay for Jason to kill people everywhere except Gotham City. If I was Jason, I would NEVER forgive Bruce for letting the Joker off the hook and sweeping Jason's life under the rug. Like Jason, Dick and Damian will never be utilized well as long as Didio is in charge. The only Robin who seems to have a bright future is Tim. I've tried to keep the faith for over sixty years straight, but this stuff is getting me down.