Madelyne Pryor: Red Queen Appreciation 2018

[Bl00dwerK]

I'm catching up my OG X-Factor collection and didn't know I was missing any of the Inferno issues. I'm 100% up to issue #50, now. The 9.6 CCG copy of #6 set me back a few bucks. Luckily, I already had #5.

[WeirdSpider]

Personally this is my favorite of Maddy's outfit's.
It's both sexy and tasteful.

[Indigo Al]

How would Maddy get along with Rachel Grey-Summers or Emma Frost?

I would think Rachel could muster some sympathy and empathy for Madelyne as a woman brainwashed and used to be a "genetic asset". Does she still think her dad's an ass for hooking up with Emma?

[Havok83]

I would think Rachel could muster some sympathy and empathy for Madelyne as a woman brainwashed and used to be a "genetic asset". Does she still think her dad's an ass for hooking up with Emma?

Rachel got past that ages ago when Scott was still with Emma

[Askani's Flame]

I would think Rachel could muster some sympathy and empathy for Madelyne as a woman brainwashed and used to be a "genetic asset". Does she still think her dad's an ass for hooking up with Emma?

She was fine with Maddie before when she was married to Scott, so if Maddie came back and was "reformed" she would likely be distrustful but have sympathy/empathy.

[EmeraldGladiator]

616MarvelYear Is Leap Year - Thanks for the memories!!

I agree about Silvestri's version of Madelyne. She was sexy from the pilot jumpsuit to the Goblin Queen outfit!

EmeraldGladiator - I loved the Mutant X version of Maddie. It was like a second chance for her character in a way.

why I loved the Mutant X universe because in it both Alex and Maddy didn't get the short end of the stick got to be happy and of primary importance.

[616MarvelYear is LeapYear]

Uncanny X-Men #171 Jul 1983
"Rogue" Guest-starring Binary.
The Alley.
Storm greets her new subjects, and commands them not to attack the "surface dwellers" any longer.
As she leaves Callisto - weak enough that she can barely stand - intercepts her.
They exchange unpleasantries and Storm tells Sunder to put his mistress back to bed.
Nightcrawler notes that Storm is going out of her way to make an enemy of Callisto, to which Storm responds they were moments from the instant they met.
Nightcrawler is troubled about Storm's shifting personality.

Anchorage.
Madelyne Pryor wakes up from a nightmare, and Scott comes running.
After she calms down she tells Scott about the 747 crash only she walked away from.

She gives the date as September 1, 1980 - and Scott is shocked to realize that is the exact day Jean Grey died!

Massachusetts.
Carol Danvers finishes a visit to her folks. However, she's setting her folks on edge and she feels empty.
She knows they're her parents and that she's supposed to care for them, but she doesn't - those feelings were stolen by Rogue.
She concludes there is no place for her on Earth - Binary's place is among the stars!

Xavier's.
Kitty is frantically searching her room for her computer disks with her homework on them, and blaming the New Mutants (X-Babies) for stealing or misplacing them.
Her roommate Illyana makes fun of her when she finally finds them under her keyboard.

In the Danger Room, Charles is running a gym setting to work on his leg muscles.
Both he and Lilandra remain mystified as to why he cannot walk in his new cloned body;
since his paraplegic condition was caused by his legs being crushed and not genetic, his legs should be perfectly functional!

In the kitchen, Colossus is pondering a cookbook when Professor X psychically tells him they have a visitor.
Because he used Peter's codename, he knows there might be trouble, and he shifts into his armored form as he opens the door to discover... Rogue?

Professor X's study.
We discover Professor X cannot read her mind. She tells them that her powers are out of control,
that permanently absorbing Carol's powers was an accident, and that she needs help.
The X-Men are suspicious, and eventually Professor X asks them to leave so he can talk to Rogue in private without all the hostility.
The X-Men resolve to vent their frustrations in the danger room.

Despite it being Kitty who wanted to hit something, she and Illyana end up in the control booth.
Illyana picks out the program, and when Kitty asks what it is Illyana tells her its a surprise.
However, when the program comes up Belasco, even Illyana is briefly surprised before flipping out.
As if possessed, she draws her Soulsword for the FIRST time from nowhere and attacks Kitty.
Kitty phases, but the Soulsword still cuts her! Kitty disarms her, and Illyana comes to her senses - crying out "I remembered!".
The other X-Men arrive in the control booth and Kitty hides the full nature of the incident, waving it off as an accident for Illyana's sake.

Later, Ororo's Attic.
She notices her plants are parched and starts a rainstorm to water them.
However, while she has an angst-ridden internal monologue she loses control of her storm and is reminded only by the sound of thunder.
She clears the clouds, but the plants have already been ruined!
Professor X contacts her telepathically, and she responds by hurling a dagger through his thought-image!

Professor X's study.
Charles has decided to admit Rogue to both the school and as a probationary X-Men member.
Storm objects - as leader of the X-Men she feels she has a say, and is unwilling to take on a member who might betray them!
At that moment, Binary lands outside the X-Mansion and enters.
After a moment of peace we suddenly see Rogue flying through the roof, getting knocked clear into orbit!
Rogue comes back for more and Binary gives it to her. But then Colossus holds Binary down and breaks up the fight.
Professor X explains that Rogue is under his protection as of now, and Binary complains.
It is Storm who tells Binary that Rogue is now the newest X-Man.
A puzzled Rogue doesn't even know why Binary has it in for her, until Binary shifts to her human (looking) form!

Rogue speaks Carol's name under her breath. Carol tells Rogue that she now has the power to destroy her.
Storm tells Professor X that if Rogue stays, she goes - and Nightcrawler says they all will.
Professor X talks the X-Men through the impasse - Carol concedes understanding but not approval, and leaves in a huff.
Storm, however, is also uncertain and goes to take a walk to decide whether she will stay or leave. She realizes, either way, that she will no longer be the woman she was.

Story by Chris Claremont. Art by Walter Simonson and Bob Wiacek.

[Uncanny X-Man]

Whenever I go back to that story and those specific panels I always find it very hard to believe that Claremont really intended for Madelyne to "just happen" to look like Jean. Why establish the connection between Jean's death and Maddie's plane crash if their looking alike was just happenstance? No wonder the clone revelation years later worked so well - I think the seeds were always there from the beginning.

[Drey]

Whenever I go back to that story and those specific panels I always find it very hard to believe that Claremont really intended for Madelyne to "just happen" to look like Jean. Why establish the connection between Jean's death and Maddie's plane crash if their looking alike was just happenstance? No wonder the clone revelation years later worked so well - I think the seeds were always there from the beginning.

If I'm not mistaken, Chris Claremont originally intended for Jean to survive the Dark Phoenix Saga, but with her powers lobotomized at the end. Editorial felt that Jean should be killed off since she killed a planet full of aliens. So Jean was killed, but then Chris (who loves Jean) decided to create Madelyne to secretly be Jean, but it was never supposed to be outright stated and they were supposed to live happily ever after, with Scott becoming only a reserve member of the X-men.

Anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

[AbnormallyNormal]

If I'm not mistaken, Chris Claremont originally intended for Jean to survive the Dark Phoenix Saga, but with her powers lobotomized at the end. Editorial felt that Jean should be killed off since she killed a planet full of aliens. So Jean was killed, but then Chris (who loves Jean) decided to create Madelyne to secretly be Jean, but it was never supposed to be outright stated and they were supposed to live happily ever after, with Scott becoming only a reserve member of the X-men.

Anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

No that's basically right.

I think Claremont said that it was sort of an evolving thing the whole hints about Maddy

Not sure he truly had a plan about it, it was just fun to tease with it

[Havok83]

Had the whole X-factor retcon not happened, I do believe she would have been retconned into being Jean. Dead dont stay dead forever and eventually Marvel would have wanted Jean back and Maddie was a convenient way to make that happen

[Uncanny X-Man]

That sounds about right, thanks everyone!

[kevlon]

Are there 2 Maddy's running about? The one with the horns and the one that joined the sisterhood?

[Drey]

Had the whole X-factor retcon not happened, I do believe she would have been retconned into being Jean. Dead dont stay dead forever and eventually Marvel would have wanted Jean back and Maddie was a convenient way to make that happen

I agree with this.

That sounds about right, thanks everyone!

You're welcome!

Are there 2 Maddy's running about? The one with the horns and the one that joined the sisterhood?

Yes.

[JudicatorPrime]

What is Maddy now physically?

A Phoenix fragment?

A being composed entirely of pure psionic energy?

A cloned body?

Something else???