Which is like Dick Grayson having a history as Robin before Bruce is even orphaned. Its stupid.
He lost the status of first superhero to the JSA in the comics. Can he not even be the first Super in his own damn franchise in a big mainstream production? On top of the half assed "trilogy" we already got, this is just another middle finger because they don't want to use him. Kara doesn't even require that kind of elevation to work. Its for her benefit that she doesn't even need and messes up his story. Screw that noise.
Yep - but that kind of thinking got them exactly where they are now: in the gutter with no short-term means of escape. Their Superman franchise is dead for the moment, and they're scrambling for ideas (and, if the rumors are even just thoughts thrown around at the moment) they're *again* learning the wrong lessons from their mistakes.
They can't afford to be pissing anybody off, right now - no matter how "insignificant" they may seem. They have the opposite of good will built, and they have to dig themselves out of that hole before they do anything. WW2, Aquaman, and Shazam may/will help, but Superman and Batman are currently tainted properties in live action. I knew this would happen eventually, all the signs were there - it just happened even faster than *I* predicted it would.
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I can see the appeal of giving Brainiac to Supergirl, actually. If you've seen Superman Unbound, you can see that to Kara, Brainiac is the scariest thing in the universe, maybe even scarier than the end of the world. That's powerful, especially when Superman's reaction is way more standard. And you couldn't really get away with Superman acting that like, you know? But Supergirl can.
I mean, all of which said, having a Supergirl movie without Superman in it still strikes me as fundamentally stupid. Well, okay, not stupid. From a marketing perspective it probably makes loads of sense! Superman hasn't been in a non-controversial, straightforwardly popular movie since 1978, and Supergirl is hugely, massively popular on TV! What I really mean is that from an aesthetic, artistic, and yeah, emotional standpoint, it would be such a soul-crushing disappointment to me not to have Superman in a Supergirl movie that I have absolutely no interest in a perspective which would treat his exclusion as a good idea.
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"You know the deal, Metropolis. Treat people right or expect a visit from me."
Yes, seeing what they've seen fit to do with these characters at times doesn't instill much confidence. Yeah they can do whatever they want, doesn't mean we need to be happy about it or think they are the best people who could be in charge. Unfortunately for us, they are.
Creating an accessible movie that is appealing to as wide an audience as possible is what they should be doing. Catering only to the fanbase is always a bad idea, but so is not considering them at all. They need good will from EVERYBODY. There is any number of ways they could go about doing this, even if they want to do a stand alone Supergirl film without Superman present for the time being, but they seem to be going for all the weird choices that just add salt to the already festering DCEU wound for the Superman brand.
This is why I'd ideally like them to be confronting Brainiac together. Superman encountering Brainiac while also meeting Kara and the two heroes uniting is no-brainer plot for a Superman movie.
Nailed it. i think from a marketing perspective giving Superman (yet another) bit of a rest could be a good idea and focusing on Kara in the meantime makes sense. It's a problem of their own making though, and supposedly making Kara the first Super on Earth taking his title away for no reason just shows their apathy towards the character. Just have him be off-planet during her first adventure or something, just don't make the reasons as pathetically obvious as her first film.
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I wouldn't call Supergirl massively popular on TV. Her show was cancelled on CBS due to poor ratings after one season, and on the CW is rating no higher than .5 w/ less than 2 million viewers. The only time she got over 1. rating was in the Season 2 premiere when Superman appeared.
Smallville was massive with much better ratings for years. I call a massive show something like what the Big Bang Theory or Game of Thrones get in viewers. Supergirl is even lower than The Flash. She is doing fine/OK for the CW, tho.
The way I look at it is this: make something that at least most fans can get behind, change only what you really need to, and give the audience a good movie that puts forward what they love about the character while introducing them to things us nerds know but they don't. That's not that hard to do unless your name is WB, Fox, Sony, or Universal. lol
I do understand that. It's the whole "they can do whatever they want and they don't care about you" that I was addressing as a mistake. Though, Supergirl isn't Wonder Woman. Diana was popular enough that people don't need much else - the main question on people's minds with Supergirl is "where's Superman and how does/does he fit into this?" Between that and the media bringing up "Snyder's failed universe" etc etc etc, I see that as creating as many problems as it solves (given that WB don't know what they're doing, that is).
However, something just occurred to me that's kinda brilliant. DC could actually make an offshoot-DCEU franchise with "Super Hero Girls". Now THAT would be a way to have a shared universe that's it's own thing, and people wouldn't ask as many questions with an ensemble cast like that. Imo, *that's* their answer.
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Maybe, but that's not a good reason that they shouldn't be trying for something that fits more in with what the public connects with in the character. That seems to suggest that WB should just do whatever because it doesn't matter. Imo, that mindset (on their part) is what got them where they are now.
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