Who is for an Jean Grey/Havok relationship ?

[phoenixzero23]

Nah, Alex is just the one that gets blamed every time that Lorna doesn't get what some fans think that she is deserving of...regardless of whether or not he had anything at all to do with it, and most of their proof is almost as old or older than I am...

i don't know why but that happens with most couples like lorna & alex, archangel & psylocke, scott & jean, rogue & gambit. somehow many fans just like to blame the relationship or partners for everything wrong.

[salarta]

Except a huge chunk of the way Polaris is treated by Marvel actually is Havok's fault, in the sense of how Marvel uses him in relation to her. Marvel clearly sees being his girlfriend as the greatest thing she can ever aspire to be, and clearly thinks she's worthless for anything that isn't being his girlfriend.

Right now is proof. They spent almost all of her presence on Blue using her as a plot device for Havok's story (with bits of the same with Magneto earlier on), then they made Havok team leader on a book, while they have absolutely no plans whatsoever for Lorna and clearly have no intention of changing that.

[spirit2011]

Except a huge chunk of the way Polaris is treated by Marvel actually is Havok's fault, in the sense of how Marvel uses him in relation to her. Marvel clearly sees being his girlfriend as the greatest thing she can ever aspire to be, and clearly thinks she's worthless for anything that isn't being his girlfriend.

I feel like Lorna is a victim of Alex, just as Jean is a victim of Scott.

Jean is getting what is due, now Lorna could get some too

[TheCape]

Lol, at this point i had to see a conversation between Havok and Cyclops of how their love lifes got so complicated.

[phoenixzero23]

Except a huge chunk of the way Polaris is treated by Marvel actually is Havok's fault, in the sense of how Marvel uses him in relation to her. Marvel clearly sees being his girlfriend as the greatest thing she can ever aspire to be, and clearly thinks she's worthless for anything that isn't being his girlfriend.

Right now is proof. They spent almost all of her presence on Blue using her as a plot device for Havok's story (with bits of the same with Magneto earlier on), then they made Havok team leader on a book, while they have absolutely no plans whatsoever for Lorna and clearly have no intention of changing that.

ok, thank you for explaining.
Also i'm not defending any of the relationships characters, i was just curious.

[AHRNIHAL]

I mean about the love traingle,. schism was ideological

Wow,how stupid of me to not get that.

[AHRNIHAL]

I feel like Alex is a victim of Lorna, just as Scott is a victim of jean.

Scott is going to be free soon, now Alex could get some too.

[LoganAlpha30X33]

Except a huge chunk of the way Polaris is treated by Marvel actually is Havok's fault, in the sense of how Marvel uses him in relation to her. Marvel clearly sees being his girlfriend as the greatest thing she can ever aspire to be, and clearly thinks she's worthless for anything that isn't being his girlfriend.

Right now is proof. They spent almost all of her presence on Blue using her as a plot device for Havok's story (with bits of the same with Magneto earlier on), then they made Havok team leader on a book, while they have absolutely no plans whatsoever for Lorna and clearly have no intention of changing that.

So how is any of that Alex's fault, so far all of that would only show that it was Marvel's fault, not the character of Alex, and some of that is your opinion...and how is it Alex's fault that Lorna isn't on a team book...and even on his own book, which doesn't appear to be lasting very long he's not really much of a leader anyway...right now all Lorna is is the daughter of Magneto, now I don't want her to just be Alex's girlfriend either but then again I never really ever saw her as that...so you're blaming a fictional character for how real people treat a different fictional character...remember at Marvel they left Alex inverted for a good long while with nobody seeming to care...

[salarta]

I feel like Alex is a victim of Lorna, just as Scott is a victim of jean.

Scott is going to be free soon, now Alex could get some too.

Havok's been "getting some" for a while. Lorna, on the other hand, basically isn't allowed to be in a relationship with anyone that isn't Havok. He's the only partner she's been allowed to have in her whole 50 years. Meanwhile, Havok's had Madelyne Pryor (arguably), Wolfsbane (didn't reciprocate), Nurse Annie, Wasp, and we'll see what happens with Dazzler.

[spirit2011]

Havok's been "getting some" for a while. Lorna, on the other hand, basically isn't allowed to be in a relationship with anyone that isn't Havok. He's the only partner she's been allowed to have in her whole 50 years. Meanwhile, Havok's had Madelyne Pryor (arguably), Wolfsbane (didn't reciprocate), Nurse Annie, Wasp, and we'll see what happens with Dazzler.

same with Jean-Scott, he had lee forrester, emma, collen wing, maddie...
Jean story is in development, but for now only Scott

[Triniking1234]

At least Storm and Psylocke are balancing out the male horn-dogs.

[TheCape]

At least Storm and Psylocke are balancing out the male horn-dogs.

Speaking of horn dogs, with the amounr of subtext in CC's run, i firmly believe that the team in the Australian Outback made a celebration orgy at some.point, Claremont was even less subtle there

[Havok83]

Platonic sure, but she doesnt need to be with Scott's brother nor does he need to be with his ex-wife.

Havok's been "getting some" for a while. Lorna, on the other hand, basically isn't allowed to be in a relationship with anyone that isn't Havok. He's the only partner she's been allowed to have in her whole 50 years. Meanwhile, Havok's had Madelyne Pryor (arguably), Wolfsbane (didn't reciprocate), Nurse Annie, Wasp, and we'll see what happens with Dazzler.

thats not completely true. Lorna had Bobby years before he came out

I feel like Alex is a victim of Lorna, just as Scott is a victim of jean.

Scott is going to be free soon, now Alex could get some too.

How? Lorna almost always gets the short end of the stick being linked to Alex

[AHRNIHAL]

Platonic sure, but she doesnt need to be with Scott's brother nor does he need to be with his ex-wife.



thats not completely true. Lorna had Bobby years before he came out



How? Lorna almost always gets the short end of the stick being linked to Alex

Different perspective.

[Havok83]

Different perspective.

Obviously but Im interested in trying to see it from your point of view