Last edited by Divine Spark; 06-11-2019 at 06:02 AM.
I think Fox has a really good track record overall. I'd say X1, X2, First Class, DoFP, Apocalypse, Dark Phoenix, The Wolverine, Logan, & Deadpool (haven't seen the second one yet) all range from good to great. That really just leaves X3 and X-Men Origins: Wolverine as disappointments for me personally, but hey, you can't win 'em all.
But even if we just went with the ones on your list, that's an impressive record all things considered. There really aren't a lot of franchise comparable to the X-Men in terms of volume (Bond, Batman and the MCU), and it's generally agreed they all have some mediocre outings. And gems is pretty high praise.
Anyway, I love Fox's X-Men (warts and all) as well as the MCU (and Batman and Bond, naturally). I think the idea that Fox's X-Men is a mess is one that's been repeated so often that people take it for granted, even if you when you break it down they like or even love over half the films.
We live in weird times where people spend more time talking about reviews, box office projections, and what they would have done differently than the films themselves. There was a time not so long ago when we were pretty much thrilled with one great superhero film every decade, and now people think of Fox's X-Men as a failure in spite of having give us so many strong outings.
At any rate, I loved Dark Phoenix and I suspect you will too. It's filled with great character moments and has a strong emotional core, as well as being a satisfying sendoff for most of the characters.
Fox should have stuck to their Feb.14 opening date but apparently James Cameron might have been the reason because he wanted Alita to avoid the Winter Holiday schedule https://ph.news.yahoo.com/x-men-dark...160131248.html.
As it is I don't think DP can beat Alita's overall gross or domestic for that matter.
I think it would have HELPED ... but I'm still not sure that it would have actually been that good. Not to be overly pessemistic, but I just have a compete lack of faith in some of the people involved in it at this point. I think FOX probably should have quit while they were ahead with Logan.
I don't think getting more of a movie that's not that great is going to make it much better.
It's like the old joke goes. "Waiter, this food is horrible, and such small portions."
I know the poster is banned, but I wanted to point out that "X-Women" has precedent -- Chris Claremont tried to pitch an X-Women movie back in the 80s (makes sense considering in the late 80s, women evened out or outnumbered the men on the team) and even met with James Cameron, and a 3rd X-game for the Sega Genesis was in development starring Rogue, Storm, and Jean as the only playable characters, but the studio shut down before they could finish the game.
I was fine with the X-Women line: I just think there needed to be some kinda build or X-Men reference prior to it. As it is, she just kinda throws it out there at the end of their argument. It certainly didn't bother me like it did some people.
What can I say but, "I love comics."