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    A good adaptation can improve upon its source material.

    Even DC did it with Aquaman.
    “Indifference and neglect often do much more damage than outright dislike.”
    -Albus Percival Wulfric Brian Dumbledore, Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix

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    I like how this trolled fans for two years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpokeking View Post

    Not really, X-Men got quite a few good movies and was able to go through without hard reboot, that's worthy to give credit to.

    MCU fanboys and nerds are going crazy over this "box office demise", but they cannot rewrite history. Poor guys.

    X1
    X2
    First Class
    DOFP
    Logan
    Deadpool


    ... are all regarded as masterpieces of their genre (superhero). And they were big hits.

    The Wolverine
    Deadpool 2


    ... are loved. And they were big hits.

    Heck, even some out there realize that "Apocalypse" was a great movie. "The Last Stand" was a great movie. Both the movies were HUGE hits globally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BatKeaton View Post
    they cannot rewrite history.
    X1... masterpiece
    First Class... big hit
    The Wolverine... loved...big hits.
    Heck, even some out there realize that "Apocalypse" was a great movie. "The Last Stand" was a great movie. Both the movies were HUGE hits globally.
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    “Indifference and neglect often do much more damage than outright dislike.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpiderClops View Post
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    Find a new hobby. In the real life, possibly. This is getting tired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BatKeaton View Post
    MCU fanboys and nerds are going crazy over this "box office demise", but they cannot rewrite history. Poor guys.

    X1
    X2
    First Class
    DOFP
    Logan
    Deadpool


    ... are all regarded as masterpieces of their genre (superhero). And they were big hits.

    The Wolverine
    Deadpool 3


    ... are loved. And they were big hits.

    Heck, even some out there realize that "Apocalypse" was a great movie. "The Last Stand" was a great movie. Both the movies were HUGE hits globally.
    First Class is my favorite Fox X-Men film but it wasn't a big hit it made a profit that's it same for Apocalypse Dr. Strange made more than 100 million than Apocalypse in 2016 that says something. Oh there is no Deadpool 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jokerz79 View Post
    First Class is my favorite Fox X-Men film but it wasn't a big hit it made a profit that's it same for Apocalypse Dr. Strange made more than 100 million than Apocalypse in 2016 that says something.
    Apocalypse was a huge success for the X-Men standards, like it or not:

    X-Men: Apocalypse grossed $155.4 million in the U.S. and Canada and $388.5 million in other territories, for a worldwide total of $543.9 million against a budget of $178 million.[4] The film is the fourth-highest-grossing film in the X-Men series (without adjusting for inflation), behind Deadpool, Logan, and X-Men: Days of Future Past.[98] It made 27% less than Days of Future Past.[99]

    First Class was a mild hit. A hit nonetheless...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BatKeaton View Post
    Apocalypse was a huge success for the X-Men standards, like it or not:

    X-Men: Apocalypse grossed $155.4 million in the U.S. and Canada and $388.5 million in other territories, for a worldwide total of $543.9 million against a budget of $178 million.[4] The film is the fourth-highest-grossing film in the X-Men series (without adjusting for inflation), behind Deadpool, Logan, and X-Men: Days of Future Past.[98] It made 27% less than Days of Future Past.[99]

    First Class was a mild hit. A hit nonetheless...
    Hit by X-Men standard kind of says it all but not a hit by other franchises standards DC turned Aquaman into a Billion dollar film Fox couldn't do that with one X-Men character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jokerz79 View Post
    Hit by X-Men standard kind of says it all but not a hit by other franchises standards DC turned Aquaman into a Billion dollar film Fox couldn't do that with one X-Men character.
    We don't care. We're talking about X-Men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jokerz79 View Post
    Hit by X-Men standard kind of says it all but not a hit by other franchises standards DC turned Aquaman into a Billion dollar film Fox couldn't do that with one X-Men character.
    He's basically saying the XCU is playing at the kiddie table. He just has some deepdenial on the subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BatKeaton View Post
    MCU fanboys and nerds are going crazy over this "box office demise", but they cannot rewrite history. Poor guys.

    X1
    X2
    First Class
    DOFP
    Logan
    Deadpool


    ... are all regarded as masterpieces of their genre (superhero). And they were big hits.

    The Wolverine
    Deadpool 2


    ... are loved. And they were big hits.

    Heck, even some out there realize that "Apocalypse" was a great movie. "The Last Stand" was a great movie. Both the movies were HUGE hits globally.
    Yeah, while I don't like some of the movies and it did have quite a few retcon, it's fine as a franchise.

    The biggest problem I'm with XCU is that Emma Frost didn't play a big role and my favorite villain Mr. Sinister didn't make appearance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpokeking View Post
    Not really, both MARVEL and DC NEVER care about retcon and consistency at all. Look at any of their issue throughout 20 years pretty much everything has been changed back and forth. As movie materials most of them(beside a few characters and plot) are just meh.

    I don't think it's fair to be too harsh on a 19 years old movie franchise over consistency when its original material never cares about it.
    It's different to not care about consistency when you've been telling stories monthly for 50 years versus telling a movie saga over a much shorter period of time with far less installments.

    Comparing the two is kinda silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theleviathan View Post
    It's different to not care about consistency when you've been telling stories monthly for 50 years versus telling a movie saga over a much shorter period of time with far less installments.

    Comparing the two is kinda silly.
    Doesn't matter, let's say take a look at any 5 years comic issue, you still can see many retcons and inconsistency.

    They simply don't care about it. Let's say the whole Phoenix stuff was inconsistent in the comic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpokeking View Post
    Doesn't matter, let's say take a look at any 5 years comic issue, you still can see many retcons and inconsistency.

    They simply don't care about it. Let's say the whole Phoenix stuff was inconsistent in the comic.
    Comparing the two is deeply flawed.

    Continuity matters in film and TV for the vast majority of the audience. Comic book readers, not so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theleviathan View Post
    He's basically saying the XCU is playing at the kiddie table. He just has some deepdenial on the subject.
    Yeah. I agree.

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