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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    Wow, I was thoroughly enjoying this book. So I guess it’s being replaced by the FNSP?
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    I'm still not completely convinced the Peter Parker ; The Spectacular Spider-man has been cancelled

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iowa View Post
    I'm still not completely convinced the Peter Parker ; The Spectacular Spider-man has been cancelled
    Zdarksy left to focus on Invaders, and they thought it would be better to relaunch with a new title than giving a new creative team the Spectacular name again. We don't know exactly what Friendly Neighbourhood will be like, but I think it's probably safe to say it will be in the same vein.
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    I was reading DeMatteis' Defenders, where he often dealt with then-contemporary issues, including characters dealing with the aftermath of the Vietnam war and disillusionment with post-60s politics. And this might be something that can work for a Spider-Man satellite book: a focus on contemporary issues. It's something that can get attention and generate stories, but doing it in a satellite book means you avoid affecting the Amazing Spider-Man brand, and the awkwardness when five-year old ASM issues are suddenly anachronistic. Peter's professional interests in journalism and research would allow him to encounter people affected by news events.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    I was reading DeMatteis' Defenders, where he often dealt with then-contemporary issues, including characters dealing with the aftermath of the Vietnam war and disillusionment with post-60s politics. And this might be something that can work for a Spider-Man satellite book: a focus on contemporary issues. It's something that can get attention and generate stories, but doing it in a satellite book means you avoid affecting the Amazing Spider-Man brand, and the awkwardness when five-year old ASM issues are suddenly anachronistic. Peter's professional interests in journalism and research would allow him to encounter people affected by news events.
    I'm kind of surprised we've never gotten a Bugle book, although I guess "The Pulse" and "Front Line" technically count.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    Batman and Superman have a bit of a difference in that there are other titles on par with the flagship books. Action Comics and Detective Comics have a strong brand of their own. And when there isn't an obvious main title it allows for a third or fourth book to stand out. An issue with Spider-Man is that Amazing Spider-Man has had a bigger reputation than most of the others.
    By that logic, though, a secondary book just titled Spider-man shouldn't have such a big problem selling. In Action and Detective Comics' cases, the respective characters debuted there before their solo titles (though not by much).

    I'm all in favour of satellite titles for characters popular enough to sustain them, especially for Spider-man. Webspinners ran while ASM and PP:SM were unreadable. People who hated JMS' ASM had Peter David's FNSM (and vice versa).

    I may be in a minority here, but I find ASM goes through phases of being great for years, then utterly unreadable for years (e.g. Mackie/Byrne unreadable, JMS readable, BND unreadable, Slott readable). It's nice to have a second option. But when both titles are bad... Ouch.

    P.S. Sorry, I'm a bit late to the party on this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by exile001 View Post
    By that logic, though, a secondary book just titled Spider-man shouldn't have such a big problem selling. In Action and Detective Comics' cases, the respective characters debuted there before their solo titles (though not by much).

    I'm all in favour of satellite titles for characters popular enough to sustain them, especially for Spider-man. Webspinners ran while ASM and PP:SM were unreadable. People who hated JMS' ASM had Peter David's FNSM (and vice versa).

    I may be in a minority here, but I find ASM goes through phases of being great for years, then utterly unreadable for years (e.g. Mackie/Byrne unreadable, JMS readable, BND unreadable, Slott readable). It's nice to have a second option. But when both titles are bad... Ouch.

    P.S. Sorry, I'm a bit late to the party on this one.
    The best-selling Spider-Man book ever was Todd McFarlane's Spider-Man #1, and it is the same name as the Raimi movies, so a secondary book just titled Spider-Man could do well if Marvel signals to the readers that it's a big deal.

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    Spidey satellites should be stealth solos for random members of the supporting cast. Like Speccy was for J-Roc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snoop Dogg View Post
    Spidey satellites should be stealth solos for random members of the supporting cast. Like Speccy was for J-Roc.
    I think it should be expected for Peter's Spider-Man titles to focus on the daily lives and tribulations of his supporting cast, although when I think of "stealth solo's" I think of stuff like when Silk was first introduced and pretty much took over the book in terms of focus and importance.

    Slott's run was a Stealth Solo for a lot of things .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    I think it should be expected for Peter's Spider-Man titles to focus on the daily lives and tribulations of his supporting cast, although when I think of "stealth solo's" I think of stuff like when Silk was first introduced and pretty much took over the book in terms of focus and importance.

    Slott's run was a Stealth Solo for a lot of things .
    I think they expected Silk to have a bigger impact than she had.

    (Then Spider-Gwen took all the oxygen out of the room.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    The best-selling Spider-Man book ever was Todd McFarlane's Spider-Man #1, and it is the same name as the Raimi movies, so a secondary book just titled Spider-Man could do well if Marvel signals to the readers that it's a big deal.
    That also had alot to do with it being Todd MacFarlane and the speculator boom of that era. Unless a very special creator was involved I don't know if Adjectiveless Spider-Man would be considered as big of a deal. Not to mention it was just used as the title of Miles' solo, and even then most people just referred to it as "the Miles Morales" book anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    I think it should be expected for Peter's Spider-Man titles to focus on the daily lives and tribulations of his supporting cast, although when I think of "stealth solo's" I think of stuff like when Silk was first introduced and pretty much took over the book in terms of focus and importance.

    Slott's run was a Stealth Solo for a lot of things .
    The Web of Spider-Man series that ran at the end of BND kind of did this, and I wish they brought it back. There is so much potential to have every issue feature one or two stories each focusing on a different character.

    And yeah, alot of Slott had a bunch of solo setups during his run, Flash Thompson Venom, Silk, Ben Reilly, and a couple more I can't remember off the top of my head.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kevinroc View Post
    I think they expected Silk to have a bigger impact than she had.

    (Then Spider-Gwen took all the oxygen out of the room.)
    Fun fact, originally it was supposed to be a Spider-Ham series that was planned to spin out of Spider-Verse alongside Silk, but Spider-Gwen proved so popular they immediately canned that idea and gave it to her. It's also why Ham plays a kind of supporting role in the series, as a joke to that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inversed View Post
    And yeah, alot of Slott had a bunch of solo setups during his run, Flash Thompson Venom, Silk, Ben Reilly, and a couple more I can't remember off the top of my head.
    Add to the list Morbius (they set it up, it just didn't go anywhere), +/- Spider-Woman (do you count things spinning out of Spider-verse?) relaunch, and Spider-man 2099. People can rag on Slott's stories all they want, but he was a damn good soldier for Marvel
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    Prowler was supposed to be a real solo launch out of Clone Conspiracy with some mysterious, radical premise, but ended up joining Morbius in the cancellation hole before they could get to it. Oh Hobie, I weep for thee.

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    As long as they all offer a different flavor, I’m in. But it’d suck if they were just “more Spider-Man”

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    I'm wondering how the reception to Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man affects this question. Sales do not seem good, and the book doesn't appear to be popular here despite Tom Taylor's talents in other projects. Is FNSM making mistakes with the focus on new characters and obscure corners of New York that might not doom another satellite book, or is this an indication, with the sales of Spectacular, that Marvel should stick with more Amazing Spider-Man?

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