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    Quote Originally Posted by Triniking1234 View Post
    But Supergirl's the more popular character of the two and her names were already established.

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    Supergirl is popular. No one other than comic fans know who Kara Zor-El or Linda Danvers is.

    Or at least didn't until "Kara Danvers" that popular, widely used name, dating back decades showed up three years ago.
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    Marvel is better without a Superman analog.

    All these attempts to push Carol seem like putting the cart before the horse. The repeated attempts to push yet as the new 'X' or Marvel's 'Y' instead of focusing on making her interesting.

    Focus on getting a decent selling book first, then build from there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Things Fall Apart View Post
    Supergirl is popular. No one other than comic fans know who Kara Zor-El or Linda Danvers is.

    Or at least didn't until "Kara Danvers" that popular, widely used name, dating back decades showed up three years ago.
    What?

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    Can't argue with that. My favorite Carol stories were the Brian Reed stuff up through Civil War.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Triniking1234 View Post
    What?

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    They are called words.

    They mean "most people didnt know anything about supergirl prior to her having a hit show, other than she was a girl somehow related to Superman."

    Those are more words.
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    I want so much to Deadpool to meet with Carol, I mean Car-Ell, now. LOL.

    I mean, they couald have changed the name to somethng a little more subtle. She could had been Cah-Rell perfectly.

    But Car-Ell. And with a double L!! You never hear about the L conspiracy??
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    No need to be rude. I got caught off-guard lack of explanation.

    Supergirl's names were already established before Carol Danvers existed and her name is the show is just a nod to the comic book continuity which older fans of the character would automatically detect and not DC trying to cash in on the Captain Marvel spotlight, especially since Captain Marvel is already the less popular of the two heroines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Things Fall Apart View Post
    Can't argue with that. My favorite Carol stories were the Brian Reed stuff up through Civil War.
    For some reason Marvel seems to think that putting Carol everywhere is going to put her over. Probably because a lot of their more popular characters tend to show up everywhere.

    Thing is that's not how the relationship between popularity and appearances works. You have Spider-Man appear in say, an Avengers book, not to push Spidey, but in the hopes that Peter will boost the sales of the books he appears in.

    If anything, too many appearances is detrimental to characters. Why is Wolverine on every X-Team. Why is he a Mentor here, a ninja assassin there, and a feral Berserker in this third place?

    Basically they have the relationship backwards.

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    This will never last once the movie comes out they’ll change her origin again just you wait

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreyga2000 View Post
    This will never last once the movie comes out they’ll change her origin again just you wait
    Carol Danvers, the Woman of One Thousand Origins!

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    Hawkman: Sigh, I have the most confusing origin in comics.

    Captain Marvel: Hold muh' better.

    Hawkman: Aren't you supposed be an alcoholic?

    Captain Marvel: Who the heck knows anymore?. Let's do this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony W View Post
    Hawkman: Sigh, I have the most confusing origin in comics.

    Captain Marvel: Hold muh' better.

    Hawkman: Aren't you supposed be an alcoholic?

    Captain Marvel: Who the heck knows anymore?. Let's do this.
    Donna Troy: Sup, you think you have confusing origins? Bitches, please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Things Fall Apart View Post
    Supergirl is popular. No one other than comic fans know who Kara Zor-El or Linda Danvers is.

    Or at least didn't until "Kara Danvers" that popular, widely used name, dating back decades showed up three years ago.
    Maybe not those names, but certainly who Supergirl was, maybe by association but that's just clever marketing

    A film and 4 seasons vs 1 film, sure the films won't be equally received but that's still ahead of that game

    I think outside of comics up till this film carol was hardly known at all, Supergirl much more so by association and by tv, but there it is

    And based on numbers I think she edges the comics too

    I suppose I mean out of comics people likely knew Supergirl as superman cousin, but as for carol, till the mcu I think they knew nothing practically
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony W View Post
    Hawkman: Sigh, I have the most confusing origin in comics.

    Captain Marvel: Hold muh' better.

    Hawkman: Aren't you supposed be an alcoholic?

    Captain Marvel: Who the heck knows anymore?. Let's do this.
    I would totally buy a miniseries of Carol and Tony falling off the wagon slurring insults and throwing empty bottles at eachother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnrevenge View Post
    Donna Troy: Sup, you think you have confusing origins? Bitches, please.
    she really has been treated poorly

    This change to carol at least sits within the overall mythos

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