Apu To Be Removed From The Simpsons

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I thought they said a while ago that the show was getting close the end anyway. Wasn't the main reason the writers and producers wanted to keep going was to pass Gunsmoke for the most episodes of any TV show in history? They did that a little while ago.

I don't think its gonna go away now with Disney in charge. Plus the fact New Fox needs programming and they will need The Simpsons around.

[Conn Seanery]

Who gives a **** about the show anymore?

You, apparently. Why else write that long of a post (and not really on-topic for the thread) for show you say you gave up on 15 years ago?

It's got a 30 minute slot one night a week, and they only make twenty-something new episodes a year. It's easy for anyone who dislikes the show to avoid it if they're not purposefully looking to punish themselves.

[Username taken]

Virtually all of whom are also stereo types or idiots. If any one should be offended by the Simpsons it should be white men.

Fat Tony - Italian mafia
Grounds Keeper Willie - Angry ignorant Scotsman
Cletus - Inbred Redneck
Mayor Quimby - Crooked Irish politician
Montgomery Burns - Evil old rich guy
Homer - Moron
Bart - Underachieving troublemaker
Chief Wiggum - Also a moron
His son Ralphie - Basically retarded

I fully undertand that Simpsons treats everyone like a caricature. The program is deeply satirical. That being said, if Scottish people and e.t.c complained about their depiction, then they should be heard.

My point is, we shouldn’t simply dismiss the concerns of Indians in this scenario. This isn’t a group of be-spectacled, blue haired twitter warriors screaming outrage, it’s a different ethnicity whose experiences we can’t directly relate to.

I don’t think Apu should be removed from the program (that’s a little much) but the parts of the character that Indians find offensive could be played down.

[Papa Moai]

And Apu is the 'Indian guy working in the 7-11 type store' stereotype.

Yes, and that is a stereotypical portrayal of Indian immigrants in general. Is a tv-comedian with a silly costume and a catchphrase really considered a typical Mexican profession? I always assumed Bumblebee Man was not so much an ethnic stereotype as he was a specific parody just like Rainier Wolfcastle.

[Killerbee911]

Virtually all of whom are also stereo types or idiots. If any one should be offended by the Simpsons it should be white men.

Fat Tony - Italian mafia
Grounds Keeper Willie - Angry ignorant Scotsman
Cletus - Inbred Redneck
Mayor Quimby - Crooked Irish politician
Montgomery Burns - Evil old rich guy
Homer - Moron
Bart - Underachieving troublemaker
Chief Wiggum - Also a moron
His son Ralphie - Basically retarded

It doesn't work like that,It is same thing when people don't get the difference between Blade,Bishop,Luke Cage and Black Panther being racebended and a white character. The problem is even if a white person is stereotype you can find a character(or show) that isn't a stereotype so you get some contrast. When you have Indian character as a stereotype it sticks out and you have nothing to contrast it against. Just like racebending one of the black male characters I mention takes away one of the four or five prominent characters in marvel. When they changed Wally West to a black character there was still 4 white male flash characters(Barry,Impulse,Max Mercury and Jay Garrick) or if you were change one of blond blue eye Avengers males they would still be four or five them around just in that group

Yes you can find tons of white stereotypes but if you poll people to name popular male indian character you would probably come back with Raj Koothrappali(Big Bang),Kumar(harold and Kumar) Apu(simpsons) and maybe you would say Aziz Ansari and Russell Peters in something. It is not a comparative thing when you mess up minority character the impact is bigger you don't have another chance for counter balance. And the answer is more characters now that there is a good character like Mile Morales I care less about a say Night thrasher or Black Vulcan.

[Kintor]

Yes, and that is a stereotypical portrayal of Indian immigrants in general. Is a tv-comedian with a silly costume and a catchphrase really considered a typical Mexican profession? I always assumed Bumblebee Man was not so much an ethnic stereotype as he was a specific parody just like Rainier Wolfcastle.

Now you're just getting into semantics, as though there is something particularly offensive about Apu as a character. If anything Apu is one of the most positive stereotypes on the show. The man holds a doctorate in Computer Science, is a successful small business owner, he has a nice house and a muscle car; plus he's also a volunteer firefighter. This is the kind of depiction of an Indian immigrant that should be praised, as has been the case for the last 30 years. But alas in today’s outrage culture positive characters like Apu are easy targets for people with no sense of humour.

[mburns]

It doesn't work like that,It is same thing when people don't get the difference between Blade,Bishop,Luke Cage and Black Panther being racebended and a white character. The problem is even if a white person is stereotype you can find a character(or show) that isn't a stereotype so you get some contrast. When you have Indian character as a stereotype it sticks out and you have nothing to contrast it against. Just like racebending one of the black male characters I mention takes away one of the four or five prominent characters in marvel. When they changed Wally West to a black character there was still 4 white male flash characters(Barry,Impulse,Max Mercury and Jay Garrick) or if you were change one of blond blue eye Avengers males they would still be four or five them around just in that group

Yes you can find tons of white stereotypes but if you poll people to name popular male indian character you would probably come back with Raj Koothrappali(Big Bang),Kumar(harold and Kumar) Apu(simpsons) and maybe you would say Aziz Ansari and Russell Peters in something. It is not a comparative thing when you mess up minority character the impact is bigger you don't have another chance for counter balance. And the answer is more characters now that there is a good character like Mile Morales I care less about a say Night thrasher or Black Vulcan.

The Simpsons is not responsible for the lack of representation across the media for various minorities. They are only responsible for their own show.

[MarkRodriguez09]

The Simpsons is not responsible for the lack of representation across the media for various minorities. They are only responsible for their own show.

And they're doing fine. They need to leave things alone. These guys don't even watch the show and have no right to suddenly start ****.

Where are their complaints against Raj, a guy with a funny accent and can't speak to women unless drunk and then turns into a jerk while drunk anyway.

I think they targeted the Simpsons because they are past their heyday. They don't dare touch BBT which is about to end anyway.

They need to get over it, plain and simple. They may not be blue haired SJWs, but they sure are acting like that. I mean what does it say about them that no other race is complaining about their portrayal on the show and they are? That they can't take a joke? That they don't have the thick skin Mexicans, Italians and Scottish do?

[Tuck]

And they're doing fine. They need to leave things alone. These guys don't even watch the show and have no right to suddenly start ****.

The guy who made the documentary is a lifelong fan. Most of the people he interviews are too.

hat they don't have the thick skin Mexicans, Italians and Scottish do?

Italian-American groups complain all the time about depictions of Italians in media. The word "Mafia" isn't in The Godfather because of this lobbying. And Spike Lee gets an earful anytime he puts out a movie with an Italian character that isn't a sterling example of citizenship.

(I also think it's a little more complicated with Italians. There are plenty of characters who are just Italian without it getting into negative stereotypes, but there is rarely a character who is identified as Sicilian whose story doesn't involve the Mafia to some degree. Lt. Giardello from Homicide: Life on the Street is the only exception I can think of just now.)

[TomServofan]

You, apparently. Why else write that long of a post (and not really on-topic for the thread) for show you say you gave up on 15 years ago?

It's got a 30 minute slot one night a week, and they only make twenty-something new episodes a year. It's easy for anyone who dislikes the show to avoid it if they're not purposefully looking to punish themselves.

But do you agree this show is a product of it's time and has no place/business being in this century when we have Bojack Horseman, Bob's Burgers etc. being the true successors of the Simpsons while The Simpsons is like an old pet you love, but needs to be put down.

[Jokerz79]

It doesn't work like that,It is same thing when people don't get the difference between Blade,Bishop,Luke Cage and Black Panther being racebended and a white character. The problem is even if a white person is stereotype you can find a character(or show) that isn't a stereotype so you get some contrast. When you have Indian character as a stereotype it sticks out and you have nothing to contrast it against. Just like racebending one of the black male characters I mention takes away one of the four or five prominent characters in marvel. When they changed Wally West to a black character there was still 4 white male flash characters(Barry,Impulse,Max Mercury and Jay Garrick) or if you were change one of blond blue eye Avengers males they would still be four or five them around just in that group

Yes you can find tons of white stereotypes but if you poll people to name popular male indian character you would probably come back with Raj Koothrappali(Big Bang),Kumar(harold and Kumar) Apu(simpsons) and maybe you would say Aziz Ansari and Russell Peters in something. It is not a comparative thing when you mess up minority character the impact is bigger you don't have another chance for counter balance. And the answer is more characters now that there is a good character like Mile Morales I care less about a say Night thrasher or Black Vulcan.

IMO comparing film representation of Indians with Blacks and I'm using the word blacks simply because I'm counting all people worldwide who would be categorized as Black not just African Americans isn't a fair comparison because Blacks don't have the equivalent of Bollywood. While there are film industries in countries where blacks are the majority there is nothing with the international reach as Hollywood so blacks are forced to look to Hollywood for representation. Hispanics, Indians, French, UK Members, Italians, Scandinavians, Russians, Germans, Middle East, and Asians all have massive film industries from Various countries which Hollywood takes notes from even and offers worldwide representation. Which is why I feel that's a different situation.

[mr_crisp]

Virtually all of whom are also stereo types or idiots. If any one should be offended by the Simpsons it should be white men.

Fat Tony - Italian mafia
Grounds Keeper Willie - Angry ignorant Scotsman
Cletus - Inbred Redneck
Mayor Quimby - Crooked Irish politician
Montgomery Burns - Evil old rich guy
Homer - Moron
Bart - Underachieving troublemaker
Chief Wiggum - Also a moron
His son Ralphie - Basically retarded

And let's get rid of them all.

[Osiris-Rex]

I think Kumar from Harold & Kumar was far more of a watershed character than Raj is. Raj is a foreign student with a thick accent, while Kumar was raised in America.
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Just a minor correction. Raj is not a student. Raj has a PHD in astrophysics and is a working scientist at Cal Tech.

Anyway Apu might not be gone after all.

The Simpsons showrunner Al Jean has weighed in on claims that the show’s controversial character Apu will be written out the show. Jean was responding to producer Adi Shankar’s remarks in an interview with Indiewire that he was told by “multiple sources” that Apu would be quietly dropped from the show. Jean, who has been with the show from the beginning, tweeted “Adi Shankar is not a producer on the Simpsons. I wish him the very best but he does not speak for our show.”

https://deadline.com/2018/10/the-sim...ow-1202490855/

[Osiris-Rex]

And they're doing fine. They need to leave things alone. These guys don't even watch the show and have no right to suddenly start ****.

Where are their complaints against Raj, a guy with a funny accent and can't speak to women unless drunk and then turns into a jerk while drunk anyway.

Because Raj is played by an actual Indian man using his real accent. Not some white guy pretending to be an Indian by using a fake Indian accent. And nothing about Raj not being able to talk to
women stereotypes Indians. If Indian men couldn't talk to women, there wouldn't be over 1 billion Indians in the world.

[MarkRodriguez09]

I thought they said a while ago that the show was getting close the end anyway. Wasn't the main reason the writers and producers wanted to keep going was to pass Gunsmoke for the most episodes of any TV show in history? They did that a little while ago.

But his accent doesn't sound too different from Apu... Apu just sounds more exaggerated abd cartoonish because he's a cartoon.

Might as well get a real 10 year old boy voice Bart. Have everyone only voice their gender and race.