When will Marvel Studios officially announce their first R Rated film.

[Marvelgirl]

News just reached me Birds Of Prey is R rated.I never knew that, it is not necessary either. DC is already beating MCU to get their first R Rated film. I personally think Marvel Studios is trolling everyone. There is no chance no way, no how Marvel Studios will ever produced an R Rated film.

Can anyone not bring up Touchstone or Miramax insisting those studios are owned by Disney like Marvel is owned by Disney. The difference is Disney is not directly involved in the production of movies released under touchstone and Miramax, Disney is very involved in the production of every Marvel movie from top to bottom.

[DebkoX]

I can see it for sure but it wouldn't be MCU.

[Marvelgirl]

I can see it for sure but it wouldn't be MCU.

Why can't it be the MCU? What is wrong with MCU putting out R rated films.

[DebkoX]

Why can't it be the MCU? What is wrong with MCU putting out R rated films.

Doesn't fit the tone and Disney would be losing money as low adults wouldn't be able to watch it. This would be problematic when say Blade turns up in Avengers and kids don't know who he is and adults complain he is watered down.

[Marvelgirl]

Doesn't fit the tone and Disney would be losing money as low adults wouldn't be able to watch it. This would be problematic when say Blade turns up in Avengers and kids don't know who he is and adults complain he is watered down.

I am more depressed hearing people do have this opinions since Disney now has X-Men. Disney has X-Men now, there should be a shift in tone. The R Rated movies strings should continue. (X-Force/Deadpool 3)

Did Disney look at the numbers for Deadpool and Logan vs their production cost? With Tone, Days Of Future Past didn't have the tone as most MCU movies it still banked 750m, The Dark Knight was PG 13, it was the first comic film to surpass 1bn. Comic movies rated r or not does not have to have the tone Disney sees fit to make money, It sounds like an artistry problem for Marvel Studios, I never saw it as a money problem.

[numberthirty]

I am more depressed hearing people do have this opinions since Disney now has X-Men. Disney has X-Men now, there should be a shift in tone. The R Rated movies strings should continue. (X-Force/Deadpool 3)

Did Disney look at the numbers for Deadpool and Logan vs their production cost? With Tone, Days Of Future Past didn't have the tone as most MCU movies it still banked 750m, The Dark Knight was PG 13, it was the first comic films to surpass 1bn. Comic movies rated r or not does not have to have the Disney tone to make money. I used to think it was an artistry problem, I never saw it as a money problem.

- Was it the only one?
- If not, did any of the others have a star that died before their release?

[numberthirty]

Why can't it be the MCU? What is wrong with MCU putting out R rated films.

That's easy.

Doing it just so you can say you did even though it has nothing to do with what the game plan actually is.

[Jekyll]

The MCU doesn't need an R rated film, nor should they be concerned with putting out an R rated film. They are plenty successful and are making quality products while making lots of profit. Most of that profit comes from younger people and families. Marvel has Netflix and other studios to put out more gritty products if they so choose.

DC (more like Warner Bros) is foolish and this is simply another ploy to try and make money. It will probably fail like everything else they try, with the exception of Wonder Woman and their CW properties.

[bobellis75]

Why can't it be the MCU? What is wrong with MCU putting out R rated films.

Also because the MCU films tie together so much...it's fairly important you see each film. So why alienate a massive chunk of their audience? They could do a Marvel R-rated film that's not tied into the larger MCU...but I don't see them doing an R-rated film that ties into their larger story arc, as it's intertwined among every movie they release.

[Arsenal]

News just reached me Birds Of Prey is R rated.I never knew that, it is not necessary either. DC is already beating MCU to get their first R Rated film. I personally think Marvel Studios is trolling everyone. There is no chance no way, no how Marvel Studios will ever produced an R Rated film.

Can anyone not bring up Touchstone or Miramax insisting those studios are owned by Disney like Marvel is owned by Disney. The difference is Disney is not directly involved in the production of movies released under touchstone and Miramax, Disney is very involved in the production of every Marvel movie from top to bottom.

DCEU already put out an R rated movie.

Marvel will make an R-rated film when it’s necessary. Outside of Deadpool, nobody else really needs an R-rating to be done right.

[mace11]

News just reached me Birds Of Prey is R rated.I never knew that, it is not necessary either. DC is already beating MCU to get their first R Rated film. I personally think Marvel Studios is trolling everyone. There is no chance no way, no how Marvel Studios will ever produced an R Rated film.

Can anyone not bring up Touchstone or Miramax insisting those studios are owned by Disney like Marvel is owned by Disney. The difference is Disney is not directly involved in the production of movies released under touchstone and Miramax, Disney is very involved in the production of every Marvel movie from top to bottom.

Here past talk that was posted about marvel and star wars as well but it focus on stars wars for example.

Who has creative control of Star Wars?
The Lucasfilm Story Group, created by Kathleen Kennedy, oversees all aspects of creativity and story telling within the Star Wars universe.
https://scifi.stackexchange.com/ques...l-of-star-wars

How Important Are Directors to Marvel Movies?
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hea...rectors-944030


Star wars is not created or done by Disney.
It's not done by Disney studios.
Disney funds,distribute and merchandising for star wars,that's it.
It's not in the walt disney film list below.
When you see star wars movie you don't see the disney logo in front.


List of Walt Disney Pictures films
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This list is only for theatrical films released under the main Disney banner. The list does not include films released by other existing, defunct or divested labels or subsidiaries owned by Walt Disney Studios (i.e. Marvel StudiosMVL, LucasfilmLFL, Touchstone Pictures, Hollywood Pictures, Miramax Films, Dimension Films, ESPN Films etc.; unless they are credited as co-production partners) nor any direct-to-video releases, TV films, theatrical re-releases, or films originally released by other non-Disney studios.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...Pictures_films

Here some other examples.
Here some talk about the mcu/Disney vs dc/wb vs marvel fox
This was from the imdb batman v superman forum.
by Ashray
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It's no surprise that Marvel ended up under Disney right after TA as
this conglomerate buys existing functional studios letting the
creative team in place while they take care of the distribution and
merchandising.People often forget that movies like Pulp Fiction, Good Will Hunting,
Kill Bill and many others were all produced by MIRAMAX, a studio owned
at the time by Disney Corporation, functioning under the same freedom
as Marvel or Lucas Films, etc.
That's how Disney do business with Hollywood.
It buys working entities (Marvel Studios, the Weinstein, MiraMax,
Lucas Films, ect...) and let all the creative rights within the
existing team.
Disney basically acts like a banker opening its wallet to finance
projects of existing studios under its conglomerate and collects
revenues as it opens its distribution and marketing channels to them
and take care of all the merchandising aspect.

BY Random
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camethedawn you do know marvel studios is still run by disney
BY camethedawn6
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+Random Yeah, but the parent company doesn't decide which films Marvel Studios makes nor how they are to make them, Feige is the architect of the mcu and it follows his vision and plan, not the head of Disney.

It's lucasfilm that controls where the star wars films go,not Disney.

Kathleen Kennedy (producer)
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Kathleen Kennedy (born June 5, 1953) is an American film producer. In 1981, she co-founded Amblin Entertainment with Steven Spielberg and husband Frank Marshall. She was a producer on the 1982 film E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial and the Jurassic Park franchise, the first two of which became two of the top ten highest-grossing films of the 1990s. Kennedy is fourth only to Spielberg, Kevin Feige, and Stan Lee in domestic box office receipts, with over $6 billion as of December 2015.On October 30, 2012, she became the president of Lucasfilm after The Walt Disney Company acquired the company for over $4 billion.
Overall, Kennedy's work has included over 60 films, 120 Academy Award nominations and over $11 billion worldwide including three of the highest-grossing films in motion picture history.
In June 2012, Kennedy was named co-chair of Lucasfilm Ltd. alongside George Lucas, whose role was to be eventually assumed by Kennedy.With the sale of Lucasfilm to The Walt Disney Company, she was promoted to president.

Blame Disney studio films if you don't like a snow white film for example but if you don't like a star war film or current star wars blame lucasfilm and Kennedy.
They decide where star wars go.
By the way i remember they said george lucas did not know what he was doing when the prequels came out and somebody else should be doing star wars,now all of sudden some folks wanted lucas back?
Make up your minds people.
Anyway maybe they should get george back but as an adviser.
That's it.
I thought force awakens was really good by the way.
I have still have not seen rogue one and the last jedi but i still plan to when i have more time later.

[mace11]

More Than Just The Same: MCU Head Kevin Feige Says All Marvel Movies Are 'Relatively Different'

As popular as it is, one of the biggest and most enduring criticisms of the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU) is how similar many of its entries are to each other. Minus a few exceptions, cynical viewers think that Marvel movies are interchangeable, with the only differences being the hero's name and which Infinity Stone the villain was holding. In response, Marvel Entertainment head honcho Kevin Feige defended the MCU, saying that the movies are in fact, different from one another.

Feige Talks About Marvelous Differences

While talking to Uproxx about the upcoming #Marvel movies that include Thor: Ragnarok and Black Panther, Feige acknowledged that the Marvel movies do tend to feel similar to one another. For the producer, there's a perfectly logical reason for this, and it's unavoidable given the tightly-knit group of writers responsible for bringing popular Marvel comics to the big screen.

"I mean, I think it's just the way we make the movies. I think all the movies are relatively different. I think there's a narrative that people like to write about because they're all produced by the same team and they all inhabit the same fictional cinematic universe. That we look for common similarities."

While not downplaying the criticisms and similarities, Feige doubled-down on his belief that the Marvel movies are distinct movies that just so happen to be a part of a greater cinematic universe. To prove his point, the producer cited the most recent Marvel movies that have noticeably been aiming to do something outside of the usual Marvel formula.


"And I'm not saying there aren't common similarities throughout it, but I think 'Thor: Ragnarok' and 'Spider-Man: Homecoming' are two totally different types of movies. They're both fun. People both enjoy them. Is that a similarity? If so, I'll take it. If that's a criticism, I'll take that, too. But really, yeah, 'Homecoming,' 'Ragnarok,' '[Black] Panther,' into 'Infinity War,' 'Ant-Man and the Wasp' after that. And a '90s-set 'Captain Marvel' after that; these are six very different movies.If what they have in common is they're all really enjoyable and fun to watch, then I'll take it."

When asked if Thor: Ragnarok, which is being marketed as an inter-galactic road-trip, was the craziest that Marvel could get, Feige reassured Uproxx's Mike Ryan that #Ragnarok - and by extension, future Marvel films - will be a Marvel movie that fans would not be expecting.

"The truth of the matter is I think they're all unusual and I think they all seem to be funnier than people expect. People said the same thing to me about 'Guardians [of the Galaxy],' people said the same thing to me three months ago about 'Spider-Man: Homecoming.' But, certainly, this is the one that we followed our instincts into comedy unabashedly."

https://moviepilot.com/p/kevin-feige...ticism/4414149

by M. Stewart3 hours ago
I agree that DC should not copy Marvel but this idea that DC is “darker” and more artistic is weird. Marvel was traditionally the more realistic gritty universe. Gwen Stacy, Tony’s alcoholism, Miller’s Daredevil, Claremont X-men hell even much later with Morrison’s X-men. DC followed Marvels lead and tried to adapt to Marvel’s style with New Teen Titans and the hiring Frank Miller for Batman and then struck gold with Alan Moore Swamp Thing but the dark approach never fit well with their core heroes other than Batman. Morrison’s JLA was fun but didn’t ring true and since the nth reboots it’s been a disaster.


Wonder Woman worked but was not Dark but the opposite of dark is not necessarily comedy. There is adventure, heroism, optimism bright colors without devolving to a joke a minute (tbf I loved Thor Ragnarok).
Marvel movies work because they mostly don’t insult your intelligence. Motivations mostly make sense, characters are consistent, the actors take their roles seriously, there is attention to detail. Whether you make a fun movie or dark movie doesn’t matter. You still need to execute.

by James W quote-
not much of a Marvel comic reader, but haven't they made Thor and Bruce Banner into comedians and Drax from a guy capable of killing Thanos in to guy who makes nipple jokes? Genuine question


by Steven Fraser quote-
James W Dunno anything about Drax, so I can't answer. As to the Thor and Banner point, I don't class them as "comedians" in the MCU. The comedy comes from Banner's exasperation at the situations he's put in and Thor's naivety/arrogance where he's being placed in situations where he's an outsider, a "fish out of water" as it were. It's not like they're cracking "jokes" per se, as much as their reactions to these situations where the comedy comes from. I don't recall any scene from either of these characters where they stop a scene to tell a "joke". The exact same " fish out of water" style is used for comedy throughout Wonder Woman too. These aren't "comedians"- its the ridiculousness of seeing a Norse God/Amazon react and relate to a world they have no understanding of, THAT'S where the comedy comes from.

Note-
By the way i don't think thor ragnarok had jokes or humor every minute.
This is from last year before black panther and avengers 3.
WHY THOR RAGNAROK IS THE DARKEST MCU SO FAR (Spoilers)-JOHN CAMPEA
Thor Ragnarok. People are loving the fun and comedy in the film (which is well deserved). However, when you stop to really consider the movie, you realize it is easily the darkest film Marvel has done to date. John explains why. THIS IS A SPOILER HEAVY VIDEO. ONLY WATCH IF YOU'VE SEEN THE MOVIE.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6HhGSBizS8

[mace11]

Some folks love talking about the marvel formula for mcu movies.
Here some talk about the x-men fox marvel movie formula.
Can New Mutants Bring the X-Men to Horror Movies? | CBR

The X-Men universe has seen its share of genre shifting in recent years, to be fair–Logan, The Gifted and Deadpool have all proven to be successful experiments in putting a fresh coat of paint on the traditional superhero film. But those three examples still stick to the X-Men film formula of costumed weirdos fighting the government with flashy superpowers. Deadpool uses the formula as a form of mockery, The Gifted scales it down, and Logan just isolates it to what’s really the least flashy (but no less impressive) power in the X-film roster. Just as how audiences know what to expect from Marvel Studios or DC Entertainment movies, they have a fairly solid idea of what to expect from X-films, and New Mutants certainly isn’t that.

Note-
The gifted is not movie.
X-Men: Dark Phoenix Has Officially Wrapped Production

This movie, which is promising to do the Dark Phoenix story and get it right this time, is the X-Men movie that people are talking about the least. The reviews for X-Men: Apocalypse were not exactly positive. And while movies like Deadpool 2 and the The New Mutants are promising a very different X-Men movie experience, all evidence thus far points to this one following a formula that appears to not be working anymore. There were rumors that the X-Men were finally going to embrace outer space and get weird on us, but those were shut down. It’s yet another “grounded” X-Men movie.

[mace11]

X-Men Dark Phoenix WILL BE a Disney Distributed X-Men Film

You Could view comments inside as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EithV1_xvzs

[Divine Spark]

X-Men Dark Phoenix WILL BE a Disney Distributed X-Men Film

You Could view comments inside as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EithV1_xvzs

That movie is not rated R.