Debates where one speaker is easily angered and the other is simply calm?

[Adrian Fomble]

Now as a follow-up to my last thread about debating tactics, I would like to know where can I could see (public) debates of any sort on the Internet where one person is shown to be easily upset, overemotional, and frustrated and always resorting to attacks/insults/profanity or is otherwise just unable to control their anger and temper without thinking clearly or at least resorts to this passive-aggressiveness more than the other side while the other person in the debate is shown to be more professional and respectful in their tone and and more civil, mature, and polite in their attitude or can basically maintain their cool 99% of the time even when disagreeing or being biased against the other side. REGARDLESS of which side has the facts in their favor.

Whether the debate can be about religion, social issues, politics, and anything else... please show me clips or name any well-known debates between speakers who exhibit what I described above. This is meant to be a compilation thread. Thanks.

[Adrian Fomble]

No takers? I thought given how heavy this board is on issues related to religion, politics, social issues, etc. you guys would know at least some debates like these.

[DebkoX]

I wouldn't say angry but Gordon Brown in the 2010 leaders debates was flustered

[BeastieRunner]

You have a lot of debate questions.

I tend to send my mediators to medium.com and a couple other places to help hone their skills.

https://medium.com/the-mission/5-tac...e-42a9348b60ed

Here's a recent article about passive aggressive styles and how to manage them.

[KOSLOX]

Not getting "angry" during a debate isn't necessarily a marker for success. If the primary function of a debate is only to refute a topic point by point you can say pretty much anything you want and just win on points which is what Ted Cruz typically did to gain his reputation as a "great" debater.

The black-American tradition of debate relies far more on call-and-answer and appeal to emotion to sway a crowd, which means that aforementioned style of debate would likely be soundly rejected.

I've noticed most of your questions regarding debate have come from a very Eurocentric and elitist concept of what debate entails. I'd say it has far more to do with playing to the appropriate audience rather than ticking off a set of boxes about what is "proper debate".

[Adrian Fomble]

Not getting "angry" during a debate isn't necessarily a marker for success. If the primary function of a debate is only to refute a topic point by point you can say pretty much anything you want and just win on points which is what Ted Cruz typically did to gain his reputation as a "great" debater.

The black-American tradition of debate relies far more on call-and-answer and appeal to emotion to sway a crowd, which means that aforementioned style of debate would likely be soundly rejected.

I've noticed most of your questions regarding debate have come from a very Eurocentric and elitist concept of what debate entails. I'd say it has far more to do with playing to the appropriate audience rather than ticking off a set of boxes about what is "proper debate".

What do debating styles have to do with race. Why are you bringing in race where it isn't a narrowly-defined subject of the thread?

This thread isn't supposed to be about arguing what constitutes what styles of debates and which race's debate styling is appropriate for what audience, this thread is for LISTING or naming debates you know of where one side gets angered/mad and uses ad hominem attacks while the other side remains as calm as possible. If you want to name a debate where a hostile Alt-Righter loses his cool and a reasonable Leftist or Moderate debating him keeps his cool, feel free. Please stay on topic.

[KOSLOX]

What do debating styles have to do with race. Why are you bringing in race where it isn't a narrowly-defined subject of the thread?

This thread isn't supposed to be about arguing what constitutes what styles of debates and which race's debate styling is appropriate for what audience, this thread is for LISTING or naming debates you know of where one side gets angered/mad and uses ad hominem attacks while the other side remains as calm as possible. If you want to name a debate where a hostile Alt-Righter loses his cool and a reasonable Leftist or Moderate debating him keeps his cool, feel free. Please stay on topic.

Example: See your own post.

As for my point, it's specifically been a flashpoint in the modern debate and rhetoric scene.

https://www.salon.com/2014/05/13/“i_..._championship/

[Adrian Fomble]

Example: See your own post.

As for my point, it's specifically been a flashpoint in the modern debate and rhetoric scene.

https://www.salon.com/2014/05/13/“i_..._championship/

Okay nice link, but I'm going to repeat myself:

this thread is for LISTING or naming debates you know of where one side gets angered/mad and uses ad hominem attacks while the other side remains as calm as possible.

It doesn't even have to be about race lol. Now go list some debates or post a youtube clip already.

Edit: *reads pm message* Okay dodge my question without answering me. Fine.

[Dalak]

If this thread is just about getting a list of angry debates, a google search would probably find you more and you could post a list for people to add to or something else rather than asking everyone here to do all the work for you.

[Adrian Fomble]

If this thread is just about getting a list of angry debates, a google search would probably find you more and you could post a list for people to add to or something else rather than asking everyone here to do all the work for you.

Because I don't know any notable examples and I want to find answers, isn't that the purpose of posting a question thread, duh?

[Dalak]

Because I don't know any notable examples and I want to find answers, isn't that the purpose of posting a question thread, duh?

If this thread is just about getting a list of angry debates, a google search would probably find you more and you could post a list for people to add to or something else rather than asking everyone here to do all the work for you.

Google is your friend.

[Adrian Fomble]

Google is your friend.

Searched Google and I came across this first: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMQtr5WOCEY

Edit: Also, Dalak, I forgot to mention this isn't just about angry debates, it's only one side getting angry while the other side is calm. Not both sides showing they're angry.

[ed2962]

There's tons of Ben Shaprio clips on Youtube where he gets college kids flustered and looks like he "won" simply by keeping calm and speaking confidently. Many of them are interesting because most of the time Ben will grossly strawman the kids ( and others) and move quickly on and other times he clearly doesn't know what he's talking about. Yet his fans think he's DESTROYING people with FACTS and LOGIC.

My favorite clip right now though is one where some random kid outwitted Steven Crowder debating socialism and got thrown off Crowder's show.

[Adrian Fomble]

There's tons of Ben Shaprio clips on Youtube where he gets college kids flustered and looks like he "won" simply by keeping calm and speaking confidently. Many of them are interesting because most of the time Ben will grossly strawman the kids ( and others) and move quickly on and other times he clearly doesn't know what he's talking about. Yet his fans think he's DESTROYING people with FACTS and LOGIC.

Thank you, finally a real answer.

My favorite clip right now though is one where some random kid outwitted Steven Crowder debating socialism and got thrown off Crowder's show.

Did that kid keep his cool and did Steven Crowder get angry or something?

[ed2962]

Thank you, finally a real answer.

Keep in mind most of the Shaprio stuff are from Q&A's and not actual debates. He and these kids are not on an even playing field, so it's probably easy for him to keep his cool knowing that he's getting the last word regardless. Also, I think Ben is full of bullcrap on most subjects. The only thing enlightening about these clips how smug Ben is even when he's completely wrong.

Did that kid keep his cool and did Steven Crowder get angry or something?

Crowder did everything he could think of to try and throw the kid ( Yusef?) off his game including getting the young man's personal space. Crowder was clearly frustrated because the guy understood the subject way better than Crowder. Yusef kept his cool and even called him out on it at the end of the clip, "I think you're just getting mad because you're losing the debate."