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    Default X-Men in the MCU Hopes & Dreams

    This can't be the first thread focusing on this, but I searched for it and didn't find it. If there's already an ongoing discussion, please point me in the right direction.

    I've been reading X-Men comics since 1982, and have been a fan of the cartoons, movies and now TV shows. I have some hopes and dreams (and I'm actually excited) for the X-Men in the MCU.

    1. I hope they recast everyone. Except Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool. Due to the uniqueness of the Deadpool comics, I actually think he could be incorporated...eventually.

    2. Having said that, i hope they start over with the O5 and Xavier as the main focus. I hope they take their time with the story and not jump right into Wolverine, Storm, Colossus etc...The powers that be at Marvel Studios have shown they are willing to do this, unlike the DC films, so I hope they give the X-Men the same consideration.

    3. The Fox films focused on Magneto and Xavier's rivalry/friendship. I don't know if it's necessary to revisit that. Obviously, Magneto has been an important character in the X-Men comics, so he'd have to show up somehow, but it would have to be in a different way than the Fox films.

    4. I hope they keep the numbers of Mutants very low. One of the things I haven't liked in the Fox films (and sometimes the comics, tbh) is the number of nondescript Mutants running around. Focus on Xavier & the O5. Slowly introduce others. But not a lot of others.

    5. I think, for the most part, they could introduce Mutants into the MCU and almost keep them hidden from the rest of the world for a while. That would A) make sense and be in line with the comics and B) give them time to develop the characters and relationships without having to have a big confrontation with Captain Marvel or Doctor Strange etc...obviously, this would be happening at the same time the Fantastic Four are introduced to the MCU. I have ideas about that too!

    6. And finally, I really hope the characters stay true to their comic counterparts. Angel was butchered in the Fox movies. Rogue wasn't really Rogue. Storm wasn't nearly regal enough. AND if/when they do reintroduce Wolverine he's got to be a short, hairy, scrappy fellow.

    'nuff said.

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    I hope they recast everyone. Except Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool. Due to the uniqueness of the Deadpool comics, I actually think he could be incorporated...eventually.
    The uniqueness is not really necessary. Just look at the new franchise which reused an actor for the same role.

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    I hope they keep the X-Men in their own universe. The central core of the concept of the X-Men falls apart when you have the general public adoring characters like Captain America and Scarlet Witch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Weapon View Post
    I hope they keep the X-Men in their own universe. The central core of the concept of the X-Men falls apart when you have the general public adoring characters like Captain America and Scarlet Witch.
    Not really. Mutants are feared and hated for the same reason jews were in Nazi Gemany: people believe they are trying to take over. It’s never really been about the powers. X-Men #14 of the original Stan Lee run shows this. Mutants have paralleled Jews of Nazi germany more than any other group.
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    If I had my choice I would rather they are rebooted from the ground up in their own universe. I am sure that is not the plan though.

    I have said before in other threads if it was me I would establish that there have been mutants being born for a long time, but they are very very rare with only the likes of Xavier, Magneto, and Sinister being around and them keeping a very low profile. The recent events like the portal over New York, Doctor Strange using the time gem on such a huge scale, Thor opening portals, and all the other instances of weird energy being released on Earth since Iron Man I has fully triggered the x-gene to kick into high gear and teenagers around the world have started to have powers develop. Xavier and Magneto both have been gathering up these kids for a few years and training them still keeping a low profile until a mega powerful mutant (someone like Proteus) appears that then forces them to go full public to deal with it. This would scare people creating the mistrust and fear that people feel about mutants. SHIELD would have some knowledge of mutants, but because of their collapse and Hydra manipulating information details would be very scarce.

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    Colorful and individualized Superhero costumes would be nice .

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Shape View Post
    Not really. Mutants are feared and hated for the same reason jews were in Nazi Gemany: people believe they are trying to take over. It’s never really been about the powers. X-Men #14 of the original Stan Lee run shows this. Mutants have paralleled Jews of Nazi germany more than any other group.
    I think, in a post 9/11 world, the general mistrust for mutants is that people in the MU don't know who is a mutant or the type of person they are. Some mutants have very destructive powers and, if they were inclined, could use it for all the wrong reasons. What can an average person do against that? Not much. Its why Magneto is seen as such a threat. He has the power to create global catastrophe by emitting EMP or shifting the earth's poles. The cops and army can't take him out because he can stop bullets and take out things such as tanks, drones, fighter jets etc.

    The Avengers are adored because people know who they are and, since they are affiliated with S.H.I.E.L.D, are vetted and endorsed by the Government. Mutants are not.

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    Reboot everything else completely except Deadpool. That's the only way to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Weapon View Post
    I hope they keep the X-Men in their own universe. The central core of the concept of the X-Men falls apart when you have the general public adoring characters like Captain America and Scarlet Witch.
    Humanity has done fine with double standards for a long while now.

    That said, I think the X-Men's 'peaceful co existence or the threat of war' is undermined if they can call in Cap, build a million Iron Man suits, etc.

    Being their own canon always their conflict to be more pronounced in movies, IMO.

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    Im hoping Wolverine pops up as a member of alpha flight.

    I'm curious about how the X-men are going to be brought in.

    I wouldn't mind an Academy X shoutout. Those kids need a push.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cool Thatguy View Post
    Humanity has done fine with double standards for a long while now.

    That said, I think the X-Men's 'peaceful co existence or the threat of war' is undermined if they can call in Cap, build a million Iron Man suits, etc.

    Being their own canon always their conflict to be more pronounced in movies, IMO.
    Cap and Iron Man might not even be around by the time the X-Men come in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cool Thatguy View Post
    Humanity has done fine with double standards for a long while now.

    That said, I think the X-Men's 'peaceful co existence or the threat of war' is undermined if they can call in Cap, build a million Iron Man suits, etc.

    Being their own canon always their conflict to be more pronounced in movies, IMO.
    It was never a double standard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Shape View Post
    It was never a double standard.
    Embracing the superpowered Avengers while hatin and fearing the X-Men?

    Yeah, I'd call that a double standard

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    Quote Originally Posted by stwaz View Post
    This can't be the first thread focusing on this, but I searched for it and didn't find it. If there's already an ongoing discussion, please point me in the right direction.

    I've been reading X-Men comics since 1982, and have been a fan of the cartoons, movies and now TV shows. I have some hopes and dreams (and I'm actually excited) for the X-Men in the MCU.

    1. I hope they recast everyone. Except Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool. Due to the uniqueness of the Deadpool comics, I actually think he could be incorporated...eventually.

    2. Having said that, i hope they start over with the O5 and Xavier as the main focus. I hope they take their time with the story and not jump right into Wolverine, Storm, Colossus etc...The powers that be at Marvel Studios have shown they are willing to do this, unlike the DC films, so I hope they give the X-Men the same consideration.

    3. The Fox films focused on Magneto and Xavier's rivalry/friendship. I don't know if it's necessary to revisit that. Obviously, Magneto has been an important character in the X-Men comics, so he'd have to show up somehow, but it would have to be in a different way than the Fox films.

    4. I hope they keep the numbers of Mutants very low. One of the things I haven't liked in the Fox films (and sometimes the comics, tbh) is the number of nondescript Mutants running around. Focus on Xavier & the O5. Slowly introduce others. But not a lot of others.

    5. I think, for the most part, they could introduce Mutants into the MCU and almost keep them hidden from the rest of the world for a while. That would A) make sense and be in line with the comics and B) give them time to develop the characters and relationships without having to have a big confrontation with Captain Marvel or Doctor Strange etc...obviously, this would be happening at the same time the Fantastic Four are introduced to the MCU. I have ideas about that too!

    6. And finally, I really hope the characters stay true to their comic counterparts. Angel was butchered in the Fox movies. Rogue wasn't really Rogue. Storm wasn't nearly regal enough. AND if/when they do reintroduce Wolverine he's got to be a short, hairy, scrappy fellow.

    'nuff said.
    I disagree with wolverine having to be played by a short hairy guy I just don't see that working in a movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordLeviathan View Post
    can I mention an elephant in the room that needs reworking: magnetos origin(finding an 80 year old person to play the part might be hard).
    my suggestion would be the were two: the first one was an escapee from a concentration camp who became a partisan(everybody assumed he was a attemp to recreate the supersoldier serum - he wasn't) in poland and went after WWII to Israel.
    the second is his Israeli grandson.
    I think Magneto is easy to cover. Just add a line about the mutant genes tending to make mutants age slower. Heck you don't even have to have it be all mutants, make it a side effect of his powers. Easy!

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