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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvelgirl View Post
    Out of all the 22 MCU movies, GOTG 1 and 2 , Ant-Man 1 and 2 , Spiderman Homecoming, Avengers 2 andThor 3 are the most Disney Marvel movies.They are less marvel and more Disney with tone, writing and style. Gunn could do whatever he wanted as long as Disney liked it. If Gunn had said I wanted GOTG 2 to be like Arrival, It will be a different conversation.



    And somehow James Mangold, Bryan Singer and Tim Miller would have never gotten the freedom to move ahead with Logan First Class/DOFP and Deadpool.

    All those directors from marvel you mentioned are free in the Disney confinement. Many tried to break out of it others were not given a chance of trying to break away. Joss Whedon, Drew Goddard, Jon Favreau , Louis Leterrier, Ava DuVernay, Patty Jenkins , Alan Taylor and Edgar Wright.
    Bryan Singer did not have unlimited control over X-men. Hell, he came in late in the game. Tim Miller essentially got fired for his vision not matching Reynolds'.

    You use the word "creative" control, but that's not what you mean. MCU directors have plenty of room to put their stamp on films with their own creativity. What they don't get to do is decide on the story. And, frankly, neither did the vast majority of the X-men directors. Only Mangold had complete control over any of the movies, otherwise the final product is always a combination of input from the studio, producers, actors, directors, etc.

    Gunn doesn't get to make Arrival anymore than Singer got Nightcrawler and Beast in X1. The point you're making has no legs, so please stop dressing it up with the word "creative" in this false and misleading way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midvillian1322 View Post
    Deadpool might and maybe some other stuff Feigie dont want. But if u think Feigie doesnt want the Xmen in the MCU your crazy. And Bob Iger said it's all gonna be under one house with feigie. Plus the Xmen movies always do ok and some really good like Logan and DOFP but compared to the MCU they arent raking in the big money. But I mean who knows feigie could oversee a separate XCU done by fox. Guarentee if that happens though he reboots them.
    Actually, I agree. Feige would love to have the XMen. He’s not the problem, the problem is Disney’s restrictions. If MS move to the old Fox brand he will have freedom to create a more real world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders View Post
    Actually, I agree. Feige would love to have the XMen. He’s not the problem, the problem is Disney’s restrictions. If MS move to the old Fox brand he will have freedom to create a more real world.
    These are the top 12 domestic releases by box office for 2018 by Fox https://www.boxofficemojo.com/studio...studio=fox.htm that's 12 movies and Marvel Studios made more domestically with only 3 movies Disney is doing nothing to endanger their Marvel Studios golden goose.

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    Hope to see a strong showing of Bishop. Hoping to see sunspot the original unsuper- lightened version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jokerz79 View Post
    These are the top 12 domestic releases by box office for 2018 by Fox https://www.boxofficemojo.com/studio...studio=fox.htm that's 12 movies and Marvel Studios made more domestically with only 3 movies Disney is doing nothing to endanger their Marvel Studios golden goose.
    Kevin Fiege is probably begging Iger to move MS under Fox, so he can get his creative freedom back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders View Post
    Kevin Fiege is probably begging Iger to move MS under Fox, so he can get his creative freedom back.
    If Feige had no creative Freedom why would he go to the man not giving it to him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jokerz79 View Post
    If Feige had no creative Freedom why would he go to the man not giving it to him?
    Who else is he going to go to, Iger is the boss.
    Now with Fox, things have changed, this creates new options for Feige

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    A logical question... if Marvel Studios were willing to give one X-Men member their own movie who wasn't Wolverine or Deadpool, which one would you want to see get one?

    Assuming they cast well I would happily see solo films for Jean Grey, Cyclops, Nightcrawler, Colossus, Storm, Gambit, Beast, Kitty Pryde and Rogue. Or Disney+ minis if that's an option.

    Also given the size of the X-Men roster should they consider doing the blue team and the gold team so characters get more screen time (and then team up for bigger movies)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders View Post
    Kevin Fiege is probably begging Iger to move MS under Fox, so he can get his creative freedom back.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jokerz79 View Post
    If Feige had no creative Freedom why would he go to the man not giving it to him?
    Also Iger basically has said Feige will get control over the Marvel characters he uses. How much creative control does Fiege need now ? lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derek Metaltron View Post
    A logical question... if Marvel Studios were willing to give one X-Men member their own movie who wasn't Wolverine or Deadpool, which one would you want to see get one?

    Assuming they cast well I would happily see solo films for Jean Grey, Cyclops, Nightcrawler, Colossus, Storm, Gambit, Beast, Kitty Pryde and Rogue. Or Disney+ minis if that's an option.

    Also given the size of the X-Men roster should they consider doing the blue team and the gold team so characters get more screen time (and then team up for bigger movies)?
    Storm would be the best one IMHO. Maybe Bishop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derek Metaltron View Post
    A logical question... if Marvel Studios were willing to give one X-Men member their own movie who wasn't Wolverine or Deadpool, which one would you want to see get one?

    Assuming they cast well I would happily see solo films for Jean Grey, Cyclops, Nightcrawler, Colossus, Storm, Gambit, Beast, Kitty Pryde and Rogue. Or Disney+ minis if that's an option.

    Also given the size of the X-Men roster should they consider doing the blue team and the gold team so characters get more screen time (and then team up for bigger movies)?
    I would vote Storm, Gambit, Rogue, Bishop, and Nightcrawler in that order. In terms of ability to carry a solo movie.

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    Storm has enough gravitas to lead a film so I'd like to see her get a movie and maybe Nightcrawler during his circus years, Bishop in his post apocalyptic future, or Gambit with the thieves guild getting Disney+ series to name a few.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SUPERECWFAN1 View Post
    Also Iger basically has said Feige will get control over the Marvel characters he uses. How much creative control does Fiege need now ? lol
    Because right now he has to fit his movies into the Disney tight guidelines, if MS moves in under Fox the guidelines aren’t as tight.
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    Obviously Fiege is fine with the level of creative freedom he has, either that, or he’s soothing his pain by bathing in piles of money...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theleviathan View Post
    Bryan Singer did not have unlimited control over X-men. Hell, he came in late in the game. Tim Miller essentially got fired for his vision not matching Reynolds'.

    You use the word "creative" control, but that's not what you mean. MCU directors have plenty of room to put their stamp on films with their own creativity. What they don't get to do is decide on the story. And, frankly, neither did the vast majority of the X-men directors. Only Mangold had complete control over any of the movies, otherwise the final product is always a combination of input from the studio, producers, actors, directors, etc.

    Gunn doesn't get to make Arrival anymore than Singer got Nightcrawler and Beast in X1. The point you're making has no legs, so please stop dressing it up with the word "creative" in this false and misleading way.
    And he almost literally killed the whole franchise to make one good movie.

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