Frieza & Army vs. The Avengers

[Beadle]

If Frieza just fires off his little ol' planet buster on opening, who survives except Sentry?

Thor and Hulk should.

Maybe not Aaronforce Thor.

Also Quasar due to the aforementioned serious autoshields. So basically just Nova dies on the Avengers team because...

Carol absorbs that and any other energy blast, turns into the Binary and then who from Freeza's side survives that?

... because this.

[The Arbiter]

How quickly can Ginyu fire off his body swap? I remember it being pretty quick.

[Morning]

Yeah, Nova needs to make wormholes or something for long range distance travel I think.

He can fly a little FTL without apparent strain, for what that's worth. But I don't recall him explicitly going far beyond that; and he does prefer to open stargates when time or distance is an obstacle.

So basically just Nova dies on the Avengers team because...

Nova tanked the "Herald My Rage" blast while bubble-shielding two others. So really, everyone survives, even Tony who shouldn't even be there.

[Pendaran]

He can fly a little FTL without apparent strain, for what that's worth. But I don't recall him explicitly going far beyond that; and he does prefer to open stargates when time or distance is an obstacle.




Nova tanked the "Herald My Rage" blast while bubble-shielding two others. So really, everyone survives, even Tony who shouldn't even be there.

That involved maxing out his defenses though. If things get exploded fast enough, he might not have time to.

[Morning]

That involved maxing out his defenses though. If things get exploded fast enough, he might not have time to.

I'm looking at Annihilation #6 now and don't see where it says he maxes out anything. But I do see he hasn't even begun to react until the blast is so close its glow already brightly illuminates their faces. Everything is zorched by the next panel.

[Pendaran]

I'm looking at Annihilation #6 now and don't see where it says he maxes out anything. But I do see he hasn't even begun to react until the blast is so close its glow already brightly illuminates their faces. Everything is zorched by the next panel.

There's a sizable energy aura around him in its aftermath that would speak to having called it up for defense, considering he doesn't normally roll around with that kind of thing. And all the same they had enough time to react that the people with him with no particular superhuman reaction time could see the blast coming in.

[Beadle]

Nova tanked the "Herald My Rage" blast while bubble-shielding two others. So really, everyone survives, even Tony who shouldn't even be there.

I somehow forgot Tony even being there, despite already commenting on the suckiness of his ‘-Buster’ armours.

I can’t see him surviving.

[Morning]

There's a sizable energy aura around him in its aftermath that would speak to having called it up for defense, considering he doesn't normally roll around with that kind of thing.

I don't want to speculate why the aura is there. If I were to, I would imagine it was because he'd had to fly over to Annihilus. The aura most consistently appears in flight. It's not, at least obviously, in a "shield" form.

More importantly, from all of his appearances, it doesn't seem to take him any special amount of time to max his shields. He just thinks it and it's done, usually without charge time or art cue.

And all the same they had enough time to react that the people with him with no particular superhuman reaction time could see the blast coming in.

I think you can chalk that up to comic-book-dialogue-hypertime. Regardless, do we know how long it takes Frieza to blow up a planet? What bar does he have to clear here?

Even assuming somewhat less than commensurate reflexes to his maximum unassisted flight speed, I think we have to assume Rider can at least think "max shields," or Worldmind can do it for him, if indeed he even needs to. And when speed is equalized, it's a non-issue.

[Morning]

I somehow forgot Tony even being there, despite already commenting on the suckiness of his ‘-Buster’ armours.

I can’t see him surviving.

I'm thinking Rider can bubble him. There's no reason to, under bloodlust, as Tony is basically useless here. But he could and stargate him off to someplace less hostile, and that would be a kind gesture.

[seaturkey]

Frieza: I have an army.

Iron Man: We have a Hulk.

[Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh]

Frieza: I have an army.

Iron Man: We have a Hulk.

I mean Hulk doesn't really have much in the way of options here. You don't bring knifes to an Energy Attack & Esoterics Fight. Also, with the mention of Frieza planet busting, how has nobody brought up Abridged ?

[Slade1]

I mean the speed-equalised thing makes this kind of not a thing anyway, but he does have auto-shields on par with at least a high-end Lantern, so even if he’s outsped, you’ve got to get through that.

There's two scenarios; one with equal speed and one without.

[big_adventure]

I mean Hulk doesn't really have much in the way of options here. You don't bring knifes to an Energy Attack & Esoterics Fight. Also, with the mention of Frieza planet busting, how has nobody brought up Abridged ?

Eh, he did a much better job in first form in the Bardock movie.

[Siriel]

Eh, he did a much better job in first form in the Bardock movie.

Was never canon.

Fortunately Super recreated the scene minus Bardock, so that's canon.

[seaturkey]

I mean Hulk doesn't really have much in the way of options here. You don't bring knifes to an Energy Attack & Esoterics Fight. Also, with the mention of Frieza planet busting, how has nobody brought up Abridged ?

Firstly, bad anology, Hulk isn't a knife, and if you think Hulk can't smash his way through the Ginyu force, you are seriously underestimating the strongest there is.