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    Quote Originally Posted by k von doom View Post
    Not really sure which part you're referring to but in movie feats points to Achilles > Isildur
    Turn off PIS and movie Sauron crushes massive amounts of super soldiers with one swing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MindofShadow View Post
    Turn off PIS and movie Sauron crushes massive amounts of super soldiers with one swing.
    Turn off PIS and super soldiers won't be standing around waiting to be hit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k von doom View Post
    Turn off PIS and super soldiers won't be standing around waiting to be hit.
    I mean, this is all based off of 30 seconds of footage

    But one Super Soldier (the King) tried to rush him and got murked instantly lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by MindofShadow View Post
    I mean, this is all based off of 30 seconds of footage

    But one Super Soldier (the King) tried to rush him and got murked instantly lol
    Was the king a super soldier? And a PIS move really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k von doom View Post
    Was the king a super soldier? And a PIS move really.
    It was Elendil, the high king of Gondor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MindofShadow View Post
    It was Elendil, the high king of Gondor.
    Still. Was he a Super Soldier? Named doesn't automatically mean Super Soldier. And still a PIS move, that was required to get Isildur into place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k von doom View Post
    Still. Was he a Super Soldier? Named doesn't automatically mean Super Soldier. And still a PIS move, that was required to get Isildur into place.
    You mean like the one that was required to get Sauron's finger cut off by Isildur, by those standards?

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    Quote Originally Posted by k von doom View Post
    Still. Was he a Super Soldier? Named doesn't automatically mean Super Soldier. And still a PIS move, that was required to get Isildur into place.
    Well his distant distant distant distant more diluted relative was in a world where blood line means everything so... yeah, it does lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by k von doom View Post
    Still. Was he a Super Soldier? Named doesn't automatically mean Super Soldier. And still a PIS move, that was required to get Isildur into place.
    How was it PIS for the King to go confront Sauron?

    What was he supposed to do? Stand there? Run away? I am really confused here.

    Sauron came out, the armies were like, "oh **** this dude is a beast." Said beast starts smashing fools with ridiculous power, Elendil, the king, charges to try and stop Sauron and gets OHKOd
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    Quote Originally Posted by MindofShadow View Post
    Well his distant distant distant distant more diluted relative was in a world where blood line means everything so... yeah, it does lol
    I'd agree that in his prime he probably was along the lines of Boromir, but he looked what, 65-70 in the fight?

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    I mean technically I suppose it is possible that movie Elendil was just a fat, past his prime slob who let himself go after surviving the downfall, so he might have been a slow mover. And there was a bit of PIS in that Sauron literally surrounded by soldiers on his lonesome was not attacked by a volley of arrows like y'know Elrond starts the sequence with. Obviously it was a plot device to make the narrative smoother and easier to understand but I suppose it CAN be argued Achilles could slice off the ring finger real quick

    It's just that he has to kill literal tens of thousands to even get close to Sauron. Who was by, his "last film appearance", the Necromancer/bodiless spirit or a giant eye, depending on how you want to interpret that

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    And there was a bit of PIS in that Sauron literally surrounded by soldiers on his lonesome was not attacked by a volley of arrows like y'know Elrond starts the sequence with.
    Eh, that has a bit of "shoot your own men" when he's that close to them. He's Elrond, not Ramsay Bolton ;p

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    Granted Ramsay Bolton would probably just take off his shirt and kill his way through everyone, /maybe/ with "twenty good men" backing him at most if he felt really challenged.

    (Yes, I hated everything about how the show handled that character, and no, Ramsay Bolton requiring multiple armies and a giant to finally take down really just makes things kinda worse)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MindofShadow View Post
    How was it PIS for the King to go confront Sauron?

    What was he supposed to do? Stand there? Run away? I am really confused here.

    Sauron came out, the armies were like, "oh **** this dude is a beast." Said beast starts smashing fools with ridiculous power, Elendil, the king, charges to try and stop Sauron and gets OHKOd
    The intent wasn't. Mindlessly charging in was a PIS move. Aragorn saw the massive Oliphaunts wrecking the cavalry and didn't just charge in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dork Knight View Post
    It's just that he has to kill literal tens of thousands to even get close to Sauron. Who was by, his "last film appearance", the Necromancer/bodiless spirit or a giant eye, depending on how you want to interpret that
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    Bonus: They must go to war with Sauron
    I must have misinterpreted as I took this to mean, the Spartans with their backup all fight against Sauron by himself. If this isn't the case, the Spartans lose. Although, I still contend that if Achilles was in the place of Isildur, he'd have an easier time of it.

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