Bill Maher's awful take on Stan Lee's passing and Marvel Comics in general

[Tycon]

I guess no one listened when we said Bill Maher sucked when he said the N-Word live on TV or openly supported Islamophobic extremists.

https://twitter.com/saladinahmed/sta...074861057?s=19

Hopefully now he faces some sort of consequence for his actions.

[T'Challa Bruce Von Doom]

I do watch his show and I occasionally agree with his rantings, but his attempted shaming of adults who read comics mean very little to me.

An adult can read whatever he or she wants to. That's one of the things about being an adult.

What difference should it make to someone what form of media the next man or woman chooses to consume for entertainment? It doesn't affect them in any way whatsoever.

[Pinsir]

I guess no one listened when we said Bill Maher sucked when he said the N-Word live on TV or openly supported Islamophobic extremists.

https://twitter.com/saladinahmed/sta...074861057?s=19

Hopefully now he faces some sort of consequence for his actions.

Isn't that in a way justifying his position though? He could say whatever controversial things he wants about Muslims, vaccines, minorities and other 'adult' topics, but if he says something mean about a man the public primarily knows for making quips in bad children films then he's finished?

[Alan2099]

I don't care what Bill has to say and I'm not going to click the link to give him more traffic.

Stan has affected more people and left more of a legacy than anything Bill could ever hope to do.

[Ptrvc]

Isn't that in a way justifying his position though? He could say whatever controversial things he wants about Muslims, vaccines, minorities and other 'adult' topics, but if he says something mean about a man the public primarily knows for making quips in bad children films then he's finished?

Nah.

If we had to pay attention everytime someone was a dick on the internet, nobody would ever get anything done.

[Tofali]

Isn't that in a way justifying his position though? He could say whatever controversial things he wants about Muslims, vaccines, minorities and other 'adult' topics, but if he says something mean about a man the public primarily knows for making quips in bad children films then he's finished?

My sentiments exactly I find his opinions on Muslims and Islam abhorrent and when he states them there is no outcry, at the end of the day it's his opinions and he is entitled to them.

[TomServofan]

"Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up."
C.S. Lewis

[Rosebunse]

"Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up."
C.S. Lewis

And if you disagree with this quote, there's no hope for you. There are so many worse ways to spend your time than reading comics or fantasy novels.

[Holt]

This is desperate attention seeking and people are falling for it. It's the same as every juvenile blogger who had a hot take about Stan Lee when his death was announced. Whenever there's a majority opinion on anything, even mourning, there's gonna be douchebags who want to show you how extremely cool and edgy they are by letting you know how much they totally don't care. The fact that he wrote an entire op-ed about how people are stupid for caring about Stan Lee's death (as opposed to just making a mean Tweet like a normal prick) shows this was attention seeking on his part.

I guess no one listened when we said Bill Maher sucked when he said the N-Word live on TV or openly supported Islamophobic extremists.

https://twitter.com/saladinahmed/sta...074861057?s=19

Hopefully now he faces some sort of consequence for his actions.

That has been the funniest thing. He's been an ass for years.

[pageturner]

pretty lazy writing. As always he can be ignored

[My Two Cents]

I had my mid-life crisis when I was 19
Thought people would look at my comic reading
as childish and so stopped.
Than realized there is no one watching and if
they are, they are only concerned with there
own personal demons
and so I moved forward with my life and continued
reading comics

[Lee Stone]

I rate Stan Lee up with Jim Henson and Walt Disney.

Bill Maher...?

[Oberon]

Wonder if a boycott be mounted, or some sort of comeback to his remarks. Bottom line: Force him to apologize for what he said. I kind of like that.

[Oberon]

I'm 63 and have read comics steadily since 1968. I have never, EVER voted for Republican for President, certainly would not have for the current one.

I'm very liberal. In my '20 I marched for the ERA. I probably consider myself more socialistically inclined than anything, but I always vote, since I was able to.

I tend to think the true reason our politics plays the way it does is because of the large/er number of folks WHO DON'T VOTE. I believe the total of those who didn't vote in 2016 was larger than those who voted R and D, put together.

Another way of looking at Maher's blame game. Everyone talks about how Hillary won the popular vote by 3 million votes. BTW, I didn't vote for her, because I'm a feminist and Hillary is no feminist. I know, because of my ERA days what a real feminist, male or female, is like. I voted for the other Woman running, Jill Stein.

Anyway from a statistical point of view 3 Million is under 1 % of the more than 300 million people of our country. Not all citizens vote (children for example) but even when you adjust, 3 million is not a worthy indicator of "more" favoring Clinton.

At any rate this is more about Maher and his vapid and false claims about adults reading comics = Trump being elected. Garbage and shame on him for such inconsideration for a great person's death.

[Oberon]

I'm told that 80 % of the Japanese population reads their versions of comic books. Social engineering and consumerism makes people give up or move to other hobbies or forms of expression - or forms of giving our money over for some entertainment.

And the point about confusion between movie watchers and comic readers is very apt. If only a few percentage points of movie goers would pick up some comics, we'd have a healthy revival of the medium.

No, in addition to being engineered to like other things or spend money in other ways, there is a very simple truth and Bill Maher should be ashamed that he doesn't get this:

At least 80 % of American Adults do not read. They are functionally illiterate. Not reading represents a greater danger to our society. It may do more to explain part of the divide between left and right, actually. Plays into the hands of demagogues who don't people finding out things for themselves (by reading) learning compliance with Religion and political leaders, or worse.