PREVIEW: Uncanny X-Men #3

[Ambaryerno]

So Laura took down the MLF in one go in issue 1, and carved her way out of a T. rex after being swallowed in issue 2. Any predictions what her feat in issue 3 is going to be?

[Maestroneto]

So Laura took down the MLF in one go in issue 1, and carved her way out of a T. rex after being swallowed in issue 2. Any predictions what her feat in issue 3 is going to be?

Defeat all those Madroxes that the other team is having so much trouble with.

[Steroid]

Le the characters fail, jeez.

There is no reason a B-Level telekinetic shouldn't just crush all the enemies' heads at once in every issue, but we have to have comics.

Exactly, I swear it's like people want every single threat to be analyzed and defeated in the first freaking panel. If that doesn't happen then the writers are crap, their fave characters are being jobbed and the scan fest begins.

[DavidMunroe]

Multiple Man has extensive combat expertise and with the way his powers work he has way more experience than that whole team combine. What a lot of people here are unaware of, ignoring, or being willfully ignorant of is that Multiple Man sent out dupes all over the world. Some of which for years at a time, just to gain knowledge and skills. He has lived more lives and probably knows more stuff then any member of that can even hope to gain. But on top of all that there are THOUSANDS of him in that field with super powers no less.

If anything Multiple Man is currently the OP one currently in the book. If he didn't have such a head start with the dupes being in play things might run differently but that is not the case.

Be that as it may, I'm not sure if his past knowledge is relevant to this particular skirmish because 1) It's being conveyed to the viewership that Storm et al are losing because they're outnumbered and not because they're outclassed and 2) I don't believe the writers have done enough research to verify that fact to inform his presentation otherwise it would have been stated in the actual issue in order to legitimize Team B's struggle.

Even if evidence can be produced to substantiate his backlog of experience and why that might place him at an advantage, more evidence can be provided to illustrate why Storm or Polaris should have absolutely no trouble dealing with him/them.

[DavidMunroe]

Additionally, this is a re-occuring issue with writers being too unimaginative to engineer adversaries that can realistically push the X-Men to the extremes of their aptitudes. Storm was basically turned into a meme in Gold because she was constantly getting knocked out/sleeping on the job and then there's Rachel, an Omega Level Mutant that's getting brainwashed and mind-controlled on a monthly basis.

[Snoop Dogg]

The problem is definitely that the writers haven't established that every Madrox is lightning-proof with the psychic resistance perk, trained in all forms of martial arts with each dupe being capable of eating 10 Captain Americas alive, and not that certain core characters have been recklessly buffed in an attempt to boost their status with little to no regard as to how they would be used in the future with terrible powers to tell stories with like strong telepathy, creating unreasonable fan expectations for how they should perform in every situation that would be a silly chokehold on creative potential, highlighting that a lot of these characters need nerfs and that maybe 80% of the Omega mutant list being good guy X-Men who can destroy most Marvel characters from a mile away is bad.

[Prof. Warren]

Exactly, I swear it's like people want every single threat to be analyzed and defeated in the first freaking panel. If that doesn't happen then the writers are crap, their fave characters are being jobbed and the scan fest begins.

Quoted for truth.

The weird impulse of some fans to get irate when every threat isn't dealt with instantaneously and that it's always perceived by them as some storytelling flaw is just that...weird.

Pretty much every threat in a superhero comic could be resolved in a split second, or in a single panel, if the characters involved used their powers in the most efficient way possible every time out.

But that would make for a lot of pretty fu*king dull comics, wouldn't it?

Just relax and enjoy some rampaging dinosaurs, for God's sake.

[Grey]

I LOVE this scene. Bishop being the bigger man and while at the same time showing what a hero does.

Lead by example Bishop!

Agreed.

There’s always exceptions of course but, I often see a lot of readers just saying things like “kill the humans” “screw the humans” “why should we care about them if they don’t care about mutants?”. But being a real hero often occurs in moments like this. Taking the high road.

On another note, this is one of the few series where my interests grows with each issue instead of the reverse.

[Tenebrae]

The problem is definitely that the writers haven't established that every Madrox is lightning-proof with the psychic resistance perk, trained in all forms of martial arts with each dupe being capable of eating 10 Captain Americas alive, and not that certain core characters have been recklessly buffed in an attempt to boost their status with little to no regard as to how they would be used in the future with terrible powers to tell stories with like strong telepathy, creating unreasonable fan expectations for how they should perform in every situation that would be a silly chokehold on creative potential, highlighting that a lot of these characters need nerfs and that maybe 80% of the Omega mutant list being good guy X-Men who can destroy most Marvel characters from a mile away is bad.

I may get this embossed.

[Wind Rider]

See, editors shouldn't approve stuff like this, because now it's hard to believe that a major superhero in a comic book can't spend some time just fighting some dudes, when just fighting dudes is action/adventure bread and butter. At least Thor would have to reveal his presence with a light show before doing stuff like this. But when a lead character can just stealthily sweep a group to the point that readers can't believe that a literal infinite army can't oppose them for a while, there is something fundamentally broken about the character.

No, there is something fundamentally wrong with the writers’ work (or lack there of). If they have to write down their heroes to make there chosen opposition a threat then the problem lies in their inability to properly challenge there protagonists and not the character’s growth or development. PIS/CIS/WIS has been prevalent in the x-books for far too long. These X-Men are far from unbeatable. They could have a whole massive squadron of flying, energy projecting, psychic, etc Madroxs’ (or power mimics, or power dampeners fields, etc) to make the combat credible.

Its regressive and poor management on the writers part if they choose not to do their homework or think through how the action can be delivered based on the protagonists/antagonists they chose. I mean landing in the middle of a huge army for a conversation??...is just plain stupid and unrealistic imho. These aren’t novice X-Men, let alone the fact 3 of these mutants have ideal powers for crowd control/neutralization. How MM has been presented this far should be a cakewalk for Storm, Psylocke or Polaris. However, they all have human durability, limits, can make mistakes, won’t always plan for every scenario, etc. so they can be challenged and beaten, but it shouldn’t be through the plot.

[DragonsChi]

Be that as it may, I'm not sure if his past knowledge is relevant to this particular skirmish because 1) It's being conveyed to the viewership that Storm et al are losing because they're outnumbered and not because they're outclassed and 2) I don't believe the writers have done enough research to verify that fact to inform his presentation otherwise it would have been stated in the actual issue in order to legitimize Team B's struggle.

Even if evidence can be produced to substantiate his backlog of experience and why that might place him at an advantage, more evidence can be provided to illustrate why Storm or Polaris should have absolutely no trouble dealing with him/them.

Numbers is a big enough deal though. Literally just about everything they can do to him creates more of him. The more they create the more the damage is spread out and it just goes on in a huge loop.

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So this trick would just result in more dupes who weren't effected.

[DragonsChi]

Too add further Mind Control is potentially totally useless with the number of dupes he already has on the field. Because even if Psylock could get a mental lock on a decent size group of that Dupe crowd even if she missed one or two they would start doing this:






This is one of the skills he gained to overthrow mind control. And while that was going on the ones under the mental control would be attempting the same thing. At this point...the only way to stop Multiple Man is probably Flash Freezing him. But that may result in his death and the X-Men are opposed to killing.


I'm going to point this out again because it is important....Multiple Man would not be doing as well as he is doing if he hadn't had the head start. It's the fact that he already had the numbers that is the problem. The X-Men coming in Blasting and Kicking away is just making his army larger to numbers that will at one point become unbeatable.

[DragonsChi]

Agreed.

There’s always exceptions of course but, I often see a lot of readers just saying things like “kill the humans” “screw the humans” “why should we care about them if they don’t care about mutants?”. But being a real hero often occurs in moments like this. Taking the high road.

On another note, this is one of the few series where my interests grows with each issue instead of the reverse.

I feel the same way! It seems like it's somewhat rare to see the X-Men take the high road on things. There is always some speech on how bad that person is or whatever else. To see this makes happy and I'm glad that they choose Bishop for it.

[Wind Rider]

Not seeing how Starting out with 10 or 1,000 would make much difference, let alone the fact that the X-Men know who they are dealing with. Psylocke can literally just put huge #s of them to sleep, Lorna can restrain them in metal or drop them by controlling the metal in their blood & Storm can freeze an entire area, draw the oxygen out of the area for them to pass out or shock them unconscious from the air around them.

[AHRNIHAL]

Not seeing how Starting out with 10 or 1,000 would make much difference, let alone the fact that the X-Men know who they are dealing with. Psylocke can literally just put huge #s of them to sleep, Lorna can restrain them in metal or drop them by controlling the metal in their blood & Storm can freeze an entire area, draw the oxygen out of the area for them to pass out or shock them unconscious from the air around them.

They are trying to find jamie prime first.Maybe that's why they didn't do it.