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    Well, it's obvious from Tim "having a supercomputer for a brain" and being utter perfection in every way, there is only one new identity DC might consider worthy of him: GOD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oasis1313 View Post
    Well, it's obvious from Tim "having a supercomputer for a brain" and being utter perfection in every way, there is only one new identity DC might consider worthy of him: GOD.
    I was wondering when you would have done your usual futile sentence

    Anyway you have a really misrepresented depiction of Tim character.

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    Somehow, Tim gets dunked into the chemicals that made Joker and Harley…and he becomes the (heroic) jesteR!

    He would have (at least) 2 personalities…one very analytical, deductive genius and the other very playful, creative genius. Maybe he has different odd sensory powers with his different personalities similar to Crazy Jane. This would result in the Bats having to deal with a family member who has developed a ‘mental challenge’ of sorts. How do they relate to someone they once knew but now he has new personalities? I can see Stephanie staying with him and altering her Spoiler identity to resemble a ‘clown girl’.

    I chose the Jester alias because the golden-age Jester has the same colors as Robin: red, green, black and yellow.

    On the other hand, I also like the Flamebird and Drake, super spy ideas also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fergus View Post
    Tim's parents didn't know back then which I thought made Batman look bad especially as being Robin is what eventually got his dad killed.
    in the Robin series they might have found out by the Robin solo [I never read those] but when he started working with Bruce they had no idea.


    Quarter Backs are the high school Superstars right? Normal guys don't get to take on the school star and win. That's why I classed that as wish fulfilment. getting the best of the superstar.

    You can't have him best the quarter back even if he doesn't become popular or take up the position. The everyman should be the everyman.

    I don't wan't the smart kid besting the athlete in their area of expertise unless you balance with a story where the quarter back out smarts Tim.

    We all have our fields and things we are good at. Having a character show up another especially in their specialised field is jumping into Mary sue.

    I don't see the point of such a story aside from wish fulfilment.

    Somehow I doubt Damian will be the last Robin. I just can't see Damian as Flamebird and isn't that borrowed from Superman? I saw some thread where a poster suggested that Jon Kent take the Flamebird Id to train under Dick Grayson which I thought was a great idea. A Super trained by a bat going by the name Flamebird.
    I think its at least possible that you are missing the point and the intent of what I was saying, but the point is moot as its not something I'm particularly attached to. Have you ever seen a situation where an average athlete (average arm strength at best, no speed, no size, not capable of making a big play with either his arm or his feet) ends up beating out a far more athletically impressive qb? People arent stoked and coaches come under fire for it. I think it would be fun in a Tim-in-high-school book. It would be funny to see him still be awkward even though he's in a position that is supposed to be cool. In a book where the main character is a normal kid who *works with Batman* being on the football team is hardly the most wish fulfilling detail. It also wouldn't make him a Mary Sue, because I didn't say I want him to be Tom Brady or anything. Quarterback controversy are fun reading IRL. The story isn't a no brainer, but it has its merits. Not sure if Friday Night Lights is particularly popular with the comic book buying demographic either.

    I'm not sure that Damian would take up an identity other than Robin. For example, right now Tim Drake is once again going to be called Robin, but I haven't seen anything say that they are going to change Damian's mantle. Unless they age him into the 18+ range, I don't see him being called anything but Robin, and even then I'd be a bit surprised to see it. But yeah, Connor Kent, or another Kryptonian, as Flamebird would be fantastic.




    Also, the more I think about the zaniness of Chimp and Tim's detective agency, the more I love it. It should at least be an esleworld mini. At least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the illustrious mr. kenway View Post
    In The Wild Storm Jack was expiremented on to get his affinity for cities. He lost 5 years of his memories so maybe you could have tim be captured and go through a similar process?

    A bit dark but atleast its a story he could go through...
    I don't think Tim losing memories would be a good option, but otherwise yeah, why not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by failo.legendkiller View Post
    I was wondering when you would have done your usual futile sentence

    Anyway you have a really misrepresented depiction of Tim character.
    Glad I didn’t disappoint you!!!����. I’m afraid my puny poor vocabulary is inadequate to express the wonder, splendor, and glory that is Tim Dreck so it’s nice that the Great Scribe Bendis will be here to do it. I will gracefully step down from leading the Tim Dreck worship corner, only able to be a pale echo of Bendis himself.

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    Really surprised they didn't give Tim the "Oracle" identity and role.

    Having him be the support that runs the info and tech behind the scenes of the BatFam seems like such a no brainer.

    His character doesn't have to be a "superhero" and he still remains active in the books for his fans doing the stuff it seems his fans want to see him doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DevilBat66 View Post
    Really surprised they didn't give Tim the "Oracle" identity and role.

    Having him be the support that runs the info and tech behind the scenes of the BatFam seems like such a no brainer.

    His character doesn't have to be a "superhero" and he still remains active in the books for his fans doing the stuff it seems his fans want to see him doing.
    I'd be perfectly happy with Tim in that role, but not using that name. That name belongs to Babs, and Tim needs to find his own moniker rather than stealing one from somebody else. Again.

    At least with Dick and Jason, there was a reason for them taking their post-Robin names. Dick was honoring his "father" and his "uncle" while pulling from a interesting myth about rebirth and rising from the ashes, and Jason took one of names (depending on continuity) of the man who killed him (which is pretty f--ed up, but at least its a reason right?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by DevilBat66 View Post
    Really surprised they didn't give Tim the "Oracle" identity and role.

    Having him be the support that runs the info and tech behind the scenes of the BatFam seems like such a no brainer.

    His character doesn't have to be a "superhero" and he still remains active in the books for his fans doing the stuff it seems his fans want to see him doing.
    I think Oracle would be perfect for Tim--just amputate his legs either above or below the knee so he can have the wheelchair.

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    Make him an international spy instead of Grayson.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Taylor View Post
    Make him an international spy instead of Grayson.
    I think this type of move is a disservice to Tim. He should have his own direction, not borrow from Dick again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Taylor View Post
    Make him an international spy instead of Grayson.
    Yeah, I can totally see him fit this role. The flamboyance of a superhero identity seems to be ingrained into guys Dick Grayson and Damien Wayne (who I still think would be great with the name Flamebird), but Tim has always been more cerebral and low key than that. I think the subtlety and precision of a spy would be a perfect fit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dropkickjake View Post
    I think this type of move is a disservice to Tim. He should have his own direction, not borrow from Dick again.
    I felt that it should have been used with Tim in the first place. The Yost run touched on many spy themes and really fit him well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ascended View Post
    I don't think Tim losing memories would be a good option, but otherwise yeah, why not?
    I didn't mean he'd lose all like Dick or how the trope usually goes. I meant he would lost a year-6 months worth of memories. He'd wake up in a new city with these abilities but no idea how he got them. He is a detective so you should give him a mystery to solve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the illustrious mr. kenway View Post
    I didn't mean he'd lose all like Dick or how the trope usually goes. I meant he would lost a year-6 months worth of memories. He'd wake up in a new city with these abilities but no idea how he got them. He is a detective so you should give him a mystery to solve.
    Ooohhhh, okay! Then yeah, that's all good. I thought you meant he'd wake up and be all "Who are you? Bruce Wayne? Never heard of him?" Or at least have a big chunk of his publication history erased from his mind. If you just mean he wakes up and doesn't remember the last few months, that's totally different!
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