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    The editorial turnover wasn't due to Fox conspiracies, it was just they lost the very good Wacker on the Spider-Office to Animation, so they had to move the very good Lowe off X-Books to the Spider-Office, and as soon as they installed Marts to lead the X-Line, he leaves the next year for Aftershock. They needed a guy. While I think Panic isn't good at big interconnected lines of books or stories, he at least can get them made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triniking1234 View Post
    The matriarch era would've gone better if y'all had accepted Emma Frost as the Mother, Illyana as the Daughter and Laura as the Holy Spirit.

    Get rekt.

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    Aw fuck yeah.

    And what are you guys talking about? This art looks great.

    Beard is meh, but hopefully it'll look better in color.
    Cyclops was SO DAMN RIGHT, BABY
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    The Matriarch era would be great if they treated female characters as actual blood and guts heroes he way they do male characters these days. The Disneyfication of Marvel is very real and it's evidenced in CODING. For instance,, there hasn't been a female led book outside of Wolverines derivative, where they haven't softened the artwork to seem more cartoony, sweet, and palatable to potentially YA, anime, or newer/younger readership in the past couple years. You literally have to be Elektra to get a series of on par artwork the likes of male counterparts who are drawn darker, more dangerous, dynamic, a threat. Xmen Red was particularly guilty of this and especiallly its tie in with Typhoid fever. Marvel isn't investing into the idea of their female leads as being threatening or looking raw and wild and cool and in a series like XMen, where you can actually vividly explore the idea of "The Future is Female" as a concept, with one of your premiere heroines at the helm, They could do so much more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnusilver View Post
    that's what is called mental rigidity. Because the plot has been revolving around Cyclops for too long, writers can't/are too lazy to come up with a new story without Cyclops being the center. It's the same reason why extinction stories keep repeating.
    You can't force a writer to write a story they don't want, well actually you can, that's how we got IvX
    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    Because the writing was bad? Scott got all the A list writers. We got Bunn, Guggemheim, Hopeless and Lemire on a bad phase. Not fair
    All the A list writers wanted to write scott? Freking Joss Whedon wanted to write scott, bendis the writer wanted to write scott

    Maybe you should all stop complaining, being a leader brings no glory, only blame, insults and judgement, cyclops is ready to take that fall so that everyone can do as they desire with no worries, plus you need a boring rigid guy so that everyone can look good in comparison

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    Quote Originally Posted by ohsnapulon5000 View Post
    The Matriarch era would be great if they treated female characters as actual blood and guts heroes he way they do male characters these days. The Disneyfication of Marvel is very real and it's evidenced in CODING. For instance,, there hasn't been a female led book outside of Wolverines derivative, where they haven't softened the artwork to seem more cartoony, sweet, and palatable to potentially YA, anime, or newer/younger readership in the past couple years. You literally have to be Elektra to get a series of on par artwork the likes of male counterparts who are drawn darker, more dangerous, dynamic, a threat. Xmen Red was particularly guilty of this and especiallly its tie in with Typhoid fever. Marvel isn't investing into the idea of their female leads as being threatening or looking raw and wild and cool and in a series like XMen, where you can actually vividly explore the idea of "The Future is Female" as a concept, with one of your premiere heroines at the helm, They could do so much more.
    Very true. Storm was doing the whole 'take no prisoners, do what you must to accomplish the goal' thing wayyyyyy back in the 80's when Cyclops was busy abandoning his wife and child to pal around with his high school friends drumming up anti-mutant hysteria as mutant hunters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDeadSpace View Post
    Its starting to sound as if Cyclops is the greatest threat to the X-men. For once, I don't know what to do but watch.
    He's an evil spirit with power over the mind of actual humans, that's why he's coming back and so many writers have used him over the years.

    Someone should send screencaps of this place to Morrison so he'll know hypercrisis is real and Scott started it.

    We should just call the folks at Scott's thread to sit back and enjoy with us. There's still a lot of fun to have

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    Quote Originally Posted by ohsnapulon5000 View Post
    The Matriarch era would be great if they treated female characters as actual blood and guts heroes he way they do male characters these days. The Disneyfication of Marvel is very real and it's evidenced in CODING. For instance,, there hasn't been a female led book outside of Wolverines derivative, where they haven't softened the artwork to seem more cartoony, sweet, and palatable to potentially YA, anime, or newer/younger readership in the past couple years. You literally have to be Elektra to get a series of on par artwork the likes of male counterparts who are drawn darker, more dangerous, dynamic, a threat. Xmen Red was particularly guilty of this and especiallly its tie in with Typhoid fever. Marvel isn't investing into the idea of their female leads as being threatening or looking raw and wild and cool and in a series like XMen, where you can actually vividly explore the idea of "The Future is Female" as a concept, with one of your premiere heroines at the helm, They could do so much more.
    why would women try to act like males? Look at carol danvers, half the marvel forum hates her because she's a pretentious bitch that got bruce banner killed and pretty much caused civil war II and somehow we're supossed to agree with her.

    Also don't compare anime with comics, anime is far too varied, they've got catroony stuff and mature stuff, and whatever yuri qualifies as. . .

    also I honestly didn't understood half of what you're trying to write, something about young adults, female future? Shouldn't the future belong to males and females? or all the genders on the spectrum? And why would females should look like blood and guts?



    For example goblin slayer, the freak in the armour, he's a friking psycopath that kills goblin because he hates them, he spills blood and guts left and right, but i dont see him with much of a female following. . .

    Female heroes such as katniss, pris from divergent, the girl from twilight or the one from 50 shades probably got a huge female following, marvel should aim to get that audience

    Quote Originally Posted by yogaflame View Post
    Very true. Storm was doing the whole 'take no prisoners, do what you must to accomplish the goal' thing wayyyyyy back in the 80's when Cyclops was busy abandoning his wife and child to pal around with his high school friends drumming up anti-mutant hysteria as mutant hunters.
    Cyclops is way edgier for doing that, I claim that because of the fact that everyone blames him for dumping maddie as if he had sacrificed 1000 babies to baphometh and summoned a living hell on new york , and on top of that maddie was the one killing babies and summoning demons left and right
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    Mods please lock this thread. Its veered way off topic and has gotten really vitriolic.

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    But guys if Storm and the other X-Women are depicted as powerful, confident, and ultimately successful, where does that leave the franchise's favorite self-insert character?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrezValentine View Post
    He's an evil spirit with power over the mind of actual humans, that's why he's coming back and so many writers have used him over the years.

    Someone should send screencaps of this place to Morrison so he'll know hypercrisis is real and Scott started it.

    We should just call the folks at Scott's thread to sit back and enjoy with us. There's still a lot of fun to have



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    For the love of... All EvilClops did was sit/stand there, order a cup of coffee and look hot. He's not out to hurt your Disney Princesses ffs.

    Oh, wait, he talked to that woman and sorta smiled. Pure evil. Sorry, my bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disciple of Redd View Post
    But guys if Storm and the other X-Women are depicted as powerful, confident, and ultimately successful, where does that leave the franchise's favorite self-insert character?




    Quote Originally Posted by PrezValentine View Post
    He's an evil spirit with power over the mind of actual humans, that's why he's coming back and so many writers have used him over the years.

    Someone should send screencaps of this place to Morrison so he'll know hypercrisis is real and Scott started it.

    We should just call the folks at Scott's thread to sit back and enjoy with us. There's still a lot of fun to have


    Scott return is a nico nico gift!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disciple of Redd View Post
    But guys if Storm and the other X-Women are depicted as powerful, confident, and ultimately successful, where does that leave the franchise's favorite self-insert character?
    The medium is obviously overwhelmingly [white] male-centric. It was a miracle that Claremont wrote Storm(and the other Claremazons) the way he did back in the day. I'm not sure we'll ever see it's like again.
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