Jason Bourne vs IP-Man (Donnie Yen)

[Guy1]

Twister too physically strong? No he isn't, he's a human being at the end of the day, and bourne is vastly superior in skillset, armed or unarmed. But we can agree to disagree.

The feats are what they are. If you want to prove Bourne is stronger, you have to show the feats.

[Guy1]

And back to the main character, Ip VS Muay-Thai guy.

[seaturkey]

The feats are what they are. If you want to prove Bourne is stronger, you have to show the feats.

You're talking like physical strength is all that matters in a fight, and completely disregarding said fighter's skills, not to mention speed, precision, accuracy, adaptability, etc etc, all factors in determining a winner, all those things go in Bourne's favor vs twister, save the 'strength' big woop. Remember we're talking about human beings here, not cosmic gods like DarkSied. Twister can and will be hurt by blows from someone like Bourne, to assume otherwise is ridiculous.

[Guy1]

You're talking like physical strength is all that matters in a fight, and completely disregarding said fighter's skills, not to mention speed, precision, accuracy, adaptability, etc etc, all factors in determining a winner, all those things go in Bourne's favor vs twister, save the 'strength' big woop. Remember we're talking about human beings here, not cosmic gods like DarkSied. Twister can and will be hurt by blows from someone like Bourne, to assume otherwise is ridiculous.

I'm not denying that Bourne is more skilled, but that he can't really do much damage at all to Twister. Again, Ip Man had shown some superhuman strength of his own in his fights and Twister took multiple punches from him.

And again, if Bourne has the feats to beat Twister, prove it and show them.

[Guy1]

Seriously, watch this fight again. Twister isn't exactly slow either. Dude's faster than he looks.

And regarding the characters being human, well, Bourne is too. And he's going to be taking more damage from Twister's hits than Twister will take from his.

[seaturkey]

I'm not denying that Bourne is more skilled, but that he can't really do much damage at all to Twister. Again, Ip Man had shown some superhuman strength of his own in his fights and Twister took multiple punches from him.

And again, if Bourne has the feats to beat Twister, prove it and show them.

I already did, or did you not see the youtube video link where bourne, still in full amnesia state, ripped through a world class assassin using a plastic pen?

Also, Bourne fights dirty, he fights to kill, not to KO. Completely different mindsets/intentions. But enough of this, we're derailing the thread from Ip v Bourne too much as it is.

[Guy1]

I already did, or did you not see the youtube video link where bourne, still in full amnesia state, ripped through a world class assassin using a plastic pen?

Overall feats for said assassin? Did he have anywhere near the super strength presented by characters on Ip's level?

[Guy1]

[master of read]

I already did, or did you not see the youtube video link where bourne, still in full amnesia state, ripped through a world class assassin using a plastic pen?

Also, Bourne fights dirty, he fights to kill, not to KO. Completely different mindsets/intentions. But enough of this, we're derailing the thread from Ip v Bourne too much as it is.

oh lord. not the whole "fight dirty" argument.

look, no one is saying jason isn't more skilled than twister. that goes without saying. but when the strength and durablity gap is that big, skill is damn near useless. if you say jason is strong enough to hurt twister, prove it.

Ip is strong enough to punch full grown men across rooms and twister took several of his punches. if he doesn't have that level of strength in his fists, he aint hurting him.

[master of read]

dat's some freaky strength from Ip.

[Guy1]

oh lord. not the whole "fight dirty" argument.

look, no one is saying jason isn't more skilled than twister. that goes without saying. but when the strength and durablity gap is that big, skill is damn near useless. if you say jason is strong enough to hurt twister, prove it.

Ip is strong enough to punch full grown men across rooms and twister took several of his punches. if he doesn't have that level of strength in his fists, he aint hurting him.

And even if fighting dirty was a factor, it's not like Twister is a stranger to it. He outright cheated in his fight with Ip and had the rules changed for him to keep Ip from using his legs.

Ip won anyway.

He's not a stranger to fighting to kill either. He flat out killed the one master he fought and he clearly intended to kill Ip.

Heck, so did a lot of the people Ip has fought through his movies. He wrecked them anyway.

[Guy1]

dat's some freaky strength from Ip.

Yep. The man is strong, fast and an extraordinarily skilled fighter.

It's a scary combination to go up against.

[Guy1]

[Guy1]

Karate General stomping 3 kung-fu masters at once: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-Sp2nKGl6w

Ip Man stomping the same General: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hao52W-AHaI

[Guy1]