I have no idea why he shows up for two fights and is never seen again.
You left during the credits?
Amazing, one of if not the best comic book movie
Very good, enjoyable and engaging, worth seeing again
Alright, watchable, but nothing special; a bit of a disaopointment
A bad movie overall, a huge disappointment
A disgrace, a total bomb, an aberration, Worst. Movie.Ever.
I have no idea why he shows up for two fights and is never seen again.
You left during the credits?
Plot was pretty rote but it had a charming cast and spectacular direction and visuals. Easily the second best DCEU film right now.
Agreed, especially on your points about the movie not being able to breathe. There were about 4 explosions interrupting those moments, it was almost abusive. I would argue even Snyder had more character moments, with less exposition.
I don't inetnd to come off as grumpy or insistent with my view, but when my view is so opposite that of the consensus, I aim to kind of figure it out. I trust most of you all more than average movie-goers, and it's more about understanding myself and why I feel what I feel than it is trying to convince everyone else. That being said there are objective filmmaking flaws that I found shocking, I'm surprised they didn't (nearly) ruin the movie for everyone else and I'm curious why. I felt this same curiosity when I thought Batman v. Superman was awesome and others absolutely hated it.
The main characters:
Jason Mamoa did a fine job as Arthur Curry/Aquaman. He starts off as a rough and ready guy who grows into his role as a king and a hero throughout the movie. By the end he feels much more like the Aquaman we know and love from the comics.
Amber Heard was great as Mera. Not only does she look like she stepped right off the page, she's a really good character. She's a dedicated warrior but is still noble, caring and very human (like when she created water dolphins to make a child happy).
Tom and Atlanna were nice and their scenes together, made me smile, especially their reunion.
The Villain(s):
Ocean Master was ok. No offense to Patrick Wilson (he did a great job), I've just never found Orm particularly interesting. He claims he's trying to protect his people from humanity's pollution but that's baloney. Not only because he kills his own people but frankly I'm sick of this "waa waa, humankind is so horrible" nonsense. If Orm really wanted to help his people he'd contact the surface world (which, remember, doesn't even know Atlantis exists) and negotiate for a peaceful soloution. As it is, he just seems to want to destroy the surface world because he hates it. Still he served his purpose as main villain well enough.
Black Manta was awesome! I love that the movie gave a reason why he chose "Black Manta" as his codename and the scenes with him and his father are great. You really feel for him and understand why he hates Aquaman so much. Yahya Abdul-Mateen II impressed me with a steller performance. He conveyed every bit of David Kane's rage and bitterness while still managing to give him a few lighter moments to keep him from being one-dimensional. The scene where he creates his iconic helmet gave me a chuckle. Plus he fights with swords. That's awesome.
King Nereus was also good. I like the fact that while he sides with Orm he's not really bad since he's been duped into it. Plus he still cares about his daughter and doesn't want her harmed even when she's seemingly betrayed her nation.
The Storyline:
A little too fast-paced at times with too much happening too fast but overall it was really good. It had action, humour, interesting settings, romance, emotional mooments, even some scares. There's something for everyone. Plus it made sense and felt natural throughout. At no point did the story ever feel contrived or like characters were doing something stupid because the director/studio had an agenda ("cough" The Last Jedi "cough").
Heck, I didn't even mind that Dolphin (my favourite character from the comics) isn't included (hopefully she'll be in the sequel). Since I normally don't give a fudge about any comic movie/series that doesn't include my favourite characters, I'd say the movie did a great job.
Plus, no Batman stinking up the place. That's a huge bonus.
The Overall Tone:
Fun, exciting and engaging. I was never bored while watching this movie and after the DCEU's previous bore-fests that was most refreshing.
The Visuals:
Magnificent! Finally, a DCEU movie that isn't dull and boring to look at! Finally, actual colours! The scenery was a joy to look at throughout. Atlantis looked amazing, as did the Trench and the various sea monsters. The batle-suits worn by the Atlantean soldiers looked great, sleek and high-tech looking but quite distinct from those seen in similar movies.
The Action:
Excellent! This movie had some of the best fight scenes I've ever seen in a superhero movie. Both the underwater fights and those on land were incredible. Plus, like I said before, swords are awesome and I was delighted to see Aquaman, Mera and Manta all use them at certain points.
I like them from the comics and it was fun to see them on the big screen. If you really need something more I liked Mera using her power to make water dolphins because it shows she has a good heart, that she did something just to put a smile on a little girl's face. I also liked her courage and integrity in saving Arthur after the duel even though it meant losing everything she knew. I also liked the flower eating scene because it was sweet and funny.
Plus the action scenes because they were exciting.
I don't really care much about villains. I see them mostly as plot devices there to start things off and then be defeated. As long as they aren't boring I don't really need anything else.
And I really don't care. You're taking this WAY too seriously.
It was enough for me. Do you need to see his entire life history? We know why he and his dad are criminals (a family tradition stemming from how David's granddad was unfairly treated), we see from their interactions that Jesse Kane was proud of his son and so we know why David hates Arthur so much. Yes he's a criminal but he clearly loved his father and so we feel for him. We also see that as angry and bitter as David is he still retains some humour (his line about needing a bigger helmet), we know he has guts and is somewhat overconfident, given that he tried to fight a guy who just lifted a submarine. That's plenty.
Or it can give us just enough and let us fill in the details. I don't need to have everything explained.
LOL. All comic book movies have bad dialogue. They're supposed to be a bit over the top and larger than life. That's part of the fun.
That's your opinion. Personally I thought their interactions were fine. As I said, the flower eating scene was a great moment that showed how they were becoming closer, with Arthur eating the flowers so as not to embarrass Mera.
It sounds to me like you're thinking too much. Like you're so obsessed with dissecting and analysing every bit of this movie you don't allow yourself to enjoy it. Lighten up. I watched this movie to be entertained and I was.
Why? You like what you like. Simple as that. It doesn't need to be figured out or explained. You have a different opinion to most people. So what? There's nothing wrong with that. You're making a mountain out of a molehill.
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The poll option descriptions did not match my thoughts. I thought that the film was just above average, essentially right in the middle. The bad script and overstuffed quality of the film were balanced by the strength of Wan's directing, the visual effects team, and stellar performances from the veteran thesps in the supporting cast. It is right at a 6 to 7 out of 10 for me.
What I get from this is that you're happy enough to see a serviceable movie with characters from comics you like. Which is fine if that's all you want from a movie. There's nothing obsessive or overly analytical about wanting decent dialogue and a story that isn't shallow and I'm trying to see why people had different reactions than I did. This is a discussion forum, so we're discussing the movie. I get that some people can obsess over details and get lost in them, but art is about making you feel things, and I felt that very little in this movie had weight, so I'm explaining and investigating why I felt that way. I don't like movies that feel like nothing matters unless they're intended to be that way, and this one certainly isn't.
One more negative, he didn’t say “Outrageous!”
Visually stunning, but the character moments were weak IMO. Every thing had to be this epic moment.
This is definitely the case for the franchise in a meta sense, but I think I wrote that concerning purely how you felt coming out of the theater. Like "Not as good as I hoped it would be."
What fantastic lines and character moments stood out for you?
Manta's introduction and Arthur's parents' romance was great but left me wanting.
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I'm not going to vote yet, because I'm hoping to see it again this weekend with my friend, and my opinion may change after a second viewing.
That said, though, right now I'd give it a solid 6/10. I thought it was entertaining enough, but I didn't find the acting particularly strong, the visuals very stunning, or the plot all that engaging. It just felt like a stereotypical action flick to me, with a superhero veneer and too much CG.
But again, my opinion may very well change.
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