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    Default Heroes in Crisis #4 spoilers

    Once again we play " nerf the lasso".

    Brought to the hall of Justice, Booster is bound with the lasso and reveals how he was innocent of the murders, and was attacked by Harley and knocked out.

    A few pages later he tells Ted Lord (isn't he dead?) how he can't trust that because it might only be what he BELIEVES happened.

    Once again, the lasso is rendered effectively useless in its major power because the writer needs it be for the plot (which is progressing with agonizing slowness)

    We also get a splash page with Lois saying six words while she poses in her underwear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brettc1 View Post
    Once again we play " nerf the lasso".

    Brought to the hall of Justice, Booster is bound with the lasso and reveals how he was innocent of the murders, and was attacked by Harley and knocked out.

    A few pages later he tells Ted Lord (isn't he dead?) how he can't trust that because it might only be what he BELIEVES happened.

    Once again, the lasso is rendered effectively useless in its major power because the writer needs it be for the plot (which is progressing with agonizing slowness)

    We also get a splash page with Lois saying six words while she poses in her underwear.
    Ted Kord was brought back in Final Crisis, he was last seen mentoring Jaime Reyes, I believe.

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    Heroes in Crisis thus far has been all about being loose with the rules of the verse to the point of unbelievability. Mostly involving Harley Quinn but its absolutely no surprise the lasso gets a nerfing. The whole series has been the Deathstroke scene in Identity Crisis, only throughout all four issues to date.
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    Pretend to be shocked. DC hates Wonder Woman being useful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacred Knight View Post
    Heroes in Crisis thus far has been all about being loose with the rules of the verse to the point of unbelievability. Mostly involving Harley Quinn but its absolutely no surprise the lasso gets a nerfing. The whole series has been the Deathstroke scene in Identity Crisis, only throughout all four issues to date.
    Pretty much. Batgirl takes down Harley after the whole Trinity fails.
    If ten years of recording The Young and the Restless for my mother have taught me anything, it's that characters in serial dramas are always happily in love...until they're not

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacred Knight View Post
    Mostly involving Harley Quinn but its absolutely no surprise the lasso gets a nerfing. The whole series has been the Deathstroke scene in Identity Crisis, only throughout all four issues to date.
    That was exactly the comparison I was thinking of!
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    Quote Originally Posted by brettc1 View Post
    We also get a splash page with Lois saying six words while she poses in her underwear.
    This is the second instance of that happening in a King story, it happened during that double-date with Bruce and Selina in Batman too when she and Selina switched outfits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miles To Go View Post
    This is the second instance of that happening in a King story, it happened during that double-date with Bruce and Selina in Batman too when she and Selina switched outfits.
    I notice in the Batcave, Clay Mann also takes the opportunity to slip in a shot of Diana’s ass cheeks.
    If ten years of recording The Young and the Restless for my mother have taught me anything, it's that characters in serial dramas are always happily in love...until they're not

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miles To Go View Post
    This is the second instance of that happening in a King story, it happened during that double-date with Bruce and Selina in Batman too when she and Selina switched outfits.
    I wouldn't call Lois in her underwear in Batman #37 "posing". She had a good reason for being in her underwear (switching clothes with Catwoman, just as Superman did with Batman) and was in a pose where she examined Catwoman's costume and how it would fit her. It was showing her in a domestic and everyday scene.

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    In the second issue of this series, King had Harley utterly humiliate the entire Trinity. Even the almighty Batgod was not granted his customary immunity from such things.

    That one scene told us everything we needed to know about what kind of story we were getting. Welcome to Identity Crisis 2.0. Or Cry for Justice 2.0.
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    I didn't know a lot about the power of the Lasso.

    In Heroes in Crisis 4, the lasso seems to have the ability to make a person tell the truth. However, the mind of Booster Gold is chaotic, so his truth is unreliable.

    Would the Lasso of Truth work different in the past?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Konja7 View Post
    I didn't know a lot about the power of the Lasso.

    In Heroes in Crisis 4, the lasso seems to have the ability to make a person tell the truth. However, the mind of Booster Gold is chaotic, so his truth is unreliable.

    Would the Lasso of Truth work different in the past?
    Exactly.

    It has never been something that gives Wonder Woman some "Third Person" view of the objective "Truth". All it can do is stop Booster from lying to them or hiding his intentions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard-01 View Post
    In the second issue of this series, King had Harley utterly humiliate the entire Trinity. Even the almighty Batgod was not granted his customary immunity from such things.

    That one scene told us everything we needed to know about what kind of story we were getting. Welcome to Identity Crisis 2.0. Or Cry for Justice 2.0.
    Hi, Vanguard! I wanted to confirm my understanding of what you wrote above. Am I understanding correctly that HARLEY QUINN took on Superman, Batman, AND the Wonder Woman and was NOT stopped in fractions of a second with very little effort?

    If so, were they ...drugged or somesuch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanlos View Post
    Hi, Vanguard! I wanted to confirm my understanding of what you wrote above. Am I understanding correctly that HARLEY QUINN took on Superman, Batman, AND the Wonder Woman and was NOT stopped in fractions of a second with very little effort?

    If so, were they ...drugged or somesuch?
    Harley did something that peak humans have been doing a long time in DC. It was stupid but it pretty much stand practice for most of the Bat family , Green Arrow,Black Canary and bunch of other people to occasionally do something similar .If people complain about this they are thousands of things similar to this in DC cartoons,tv shows,movies and comics they should be complaining about honestly. Once again it was stupid but it is standard practice now and since the main culprit had it happen to him it is kinda funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanlos View Post
    Hi, Vanguard! I wanted to confirm my understanding of what you wrote above. Am I understanding correctly that HARLEY QUINN took on Superman, Batman, AND the Wonder Woman and was NOT stopped in fractions of a second with very little effort?

    If so, were they ...drugged or somesuch?
    Vanguard is indeed correct. She totally schools all three of them and bounces away laughing.

    Literally.
    If ten years of recording The Young and the Restless for my mother have taught me anything, it's that characters in serial dramas are always happily in love...until they're not

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